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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by StangMahn
my best friend got a ticket in VA for going 14 over...they charged her with reckless driving! What a crock of crap! She lives in NH, and when she called the VA courts, they told her that she has no choice but to show up on the court date, even if she's not asking for leniency, and threatened her with possible jail time!

I'm sorry, but have these VA legislators never driven in Richmond? unless traffic is stopped, everyone and their 90 year-old grandma drives 15+ over.

To top it off, she was told that she was "an endangerment to the state of Virginia" - This is defnitely one of the most bogus things I've ever heard. I had two tickets of 14 over here in SC and I got a grand total of 2 points and $150 in fines when all was said and done.
Originally Posted by SilverSkoundrel
That seems pretty odd. I dont ever understand the law.

FORMS OF VIRGINIA RECKLESS DRIVING

(1) The most common form of reckless driving is speeding 20+ over the speed limit;
46.2-862. A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a motor vehicle on the highways in the Commonwealth (i) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limit or (ii) in excess of eighty miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limit.

(2) Driving in a manner generally endangering others;
46.2-852. Reckless driving; general rule - Irrespective of the maximum speeds permitted by law, any person who drives a vehicle on any highway recklessly or at a speed or in a manner so as to endanger the life, limb, or property of any person shall be guilty of reckless driving.



(3) Passing a stopped, properly equipped school bus;

46.2-859. A person is guilty of reckless driving who fails to stop, when approaching from any direction, any school bus which is stopped on any highway, private road or school driveway for the purpose of taking on or discharging children, the elderly, or mentally or physically handicapped persons, and to remain stopped until all the persons are clear of the highway, private road or school driveway and the bus is put in motion. The driver of a vehicle, however, need not stop when approaching a school bus if the school bus is stopped on the other roadway of a divided highway, on an access road, or on a driveway when the other roadway, access road, or driveway is separated from the roadway on which he is driving by a physical barrier or an unpaved area. The driver of a vehicle also need not stop when approaching a school bus which is loading or discharging passengers from or onto property immediately adjacent to a school if the driver is directed by a law-enforcement officer or other duly authorized uniformed school crossing guard to pass the school bus. This section shall apply to school buses which are equipped with warning devices prescribed in 46.2-1090 and are painted yellow with the words "School Bus" in black letters at least eight inches high on the front and rear thereof. Only school buses which are painted yellow and equipped with the required lettering and warning devices shall be identified as school buses.
The testimony of the school bus driver, the supervisor of school buses or a law-enforcement officer that the vehicle was yellow, conspicuously marked as a school bus, and equipped with warning devices as prescribed in 46.2-1090 is prima facie evidence that the vehicle is a school bus.


(4) Overtaking/passing an emergency vehicle;
46.2-829. Upon the approach of any emergency vehicle as defined in 46.2-920 giving audible signal by siren, exhaust whistle, or air horn designed to give automatically intermittent signals, and displaying a flashing, blinking, or alternating emergency light or lights as provided in 46.2-1022 through 1024, the driver of every other vehicle shall, as quickly as traffic and other highway conditions permit, drive to the nearest edge of the roadway, clear of any intersection of highways, and stop and remain there, unless otherwise directed by a law-enforcement officer, until the emergency vehicle has passed. This provision shall not relieve the driver of any such vehicle to which the right-of-way is to be yielded of the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons using the highway, nor shall it protect the driver of any such vehicle from the consequences of an arbitrary exercise of such right-of-way.
Violation of this section shall constitute failure to yield the right-of-way; however, any violation of this section that involves overtaking or passing a moving emergency vehicle giving an audible signal and displaying activated warning lights as provided for in this section shall constitute reckless driving, punishable as provided in 46.2-868.




(5) Racing;
46.2-865. Racing; penalty - Any person who engages in a race between two or more motor vehicles on the highways in the Commonwealth or on any driveway or premises of a church, school, recreational facility, or business property open to the public in the Commonwealth shall be guilty of reckless driving, unless authorized by the owner of the property or his agent. When any person is convicted of reckless driving under this section, in addition to any other penalties provided by law the driver's license of such person shall be suspended by the court for a period of not less than six months nor more than two years. In case of conviction the court shall order the surrender of the license to the court where it shall be disposed of in accordance with the provisions of 46.2-398.

46.2-865.1. Injuring another or causing the death of another while engaging in a race; penalties.
A. Any person who, while engaging in a race in violation of 46.2-865 in a manner so gross, wanton and culpable as to show a reckless disregard for human life:
1. Causes serious bodily injury to another person who is not involved in the violation of 46.2-865 is guilty of a Class 6 felony; or
2. Causes the death of another person is guilty of a felony punishable by a term of imprisonment of not less than one nor more than 20 years, one year of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment.
B. Upon conviction, the court shall suspend the driver's license of such person for a period of not less than one year nor more than three years, and shall order the surrender of the license to be disposed of in accordance with the provisions of 46.2-398.


(6) Improper brakes, or while vehicle not under proper control;
46.2-853. Driving vehicle which is not under control; faulty brakes - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a vehicle which is not under proper control or which has inadequate or improperly adjusted brakes on any highway in the Commonwealth.


(7) Driving to fast for traffic conditions;

46.2-861. Driving too fast for highway and traffic conditions - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who exceeds a reasonable speed under the circumstances and traffic conditions existing at the time, regardless of any posted speed limit.




(8) Passing a vehicle at a crest or a grade;
46.2-854. Passing on or at the crest of a grade or on a curve - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who, while driving a vehicle, overtakes and passes another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, on or approaching the crest of a grade or on or approaching a curve in the highway, where the driver's view along the highway is obstructed, except where the overtaking vehicle is being operated on a highway having two or more designated lanes of roadway for each direction of travel or on a designated one-way roadway or highway.




(9) Overloaded vehicle such as to obstruct/interfere with drivers control;
46.2-855. Driving with driver's view obstructed or control impaired - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a vehicle when it is so loaded, or when there are in the front seat such number of persons, as to obstruct the view of the driver to the front or sides of the vehicle or to interfere with the driver's control over the driving mechanism of the vehicle.

(10) Passing another vehicle at a railroad grade crossing;
46.2-858. Passing at a railroad grade crossing - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who overtakes or passes any other vehicle proceeding in the same direction at any railroad grade crossing or at any intersection of highways unless such vehicles are being operated on a highway having two or more designated lanes of roadway for each direction of travel or unless such intersection is designated and marked as a passing zone or on a designated one-way street or highway, or while pedestrians are passing or about to pass in front of either of such vehicles, unless permitted so to do by a traffic light or law-enforcement officer.



(11) Failing to give proper signal;
46.2-860. Failing to give proper signals - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who fails to give adequate and timely signals of intention to turn, partly turn, slow down, or stop, as required by Article 6 (46.2-848 et seq.) of this chapter.


(12) Failure to yield right-of-way when merging onto highway;
46.2-863. Failure to yield right-of-way - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who fails to bring his vehicle to a stop immediately before entering a highway from a side road when there is traffic approaching on such highway within 500 feet of such point of entrance, unless (i) a "Yield Right-of-Way" sign is posted or (ii) where such sign is posted, fails, upon entering such highway, to yield the right-of-way to the driver of a vehicle approaching on such highway from either direction.


(13) Passing two vehicles abreast;
46.2-856. Passing two vehicles abreast - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who passes or attempts to pass two other vehicles abreast, moving in the same direction, except on highways having separate roadways of three or more lanes for each direction of travel, or on designated one-way streets or highways. This section shall not apply, however, to a motor vehicle passing two other vehicles when one or both of such other vehicles is a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, or moped; nor shall this section apply to a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, or moped passing two other vehicles.



(14) Driving two abreast in a single lane;
46.2-857. Driving two abreast in a single lane - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to be abreast of another vehicle in a lane designed for one vehicle, or drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to travel abreast of any other vehicle traveling in a lane designed for one vehicle. However, this section shall not apply to any validly authorized parade, motorcade, or motorcycle escort, nor shall it apply to a motor vehicle traveling in the same lane of traffic as a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, or moped.



(15) Driving over 80 mph.
46.2-862 A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a motor vehicle on the highways in the Commonwealth (i) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limit or (ii) in excess of eighty miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limit.




The reckless driving offense can even occur on a parking lot

46.2-864. Reckless driving on parking lots, etc. - A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who operates any motor vehicle at a speed or in a manner so as to endanger the life, limb, or property of any person:
1. On any driveway or premises of a church, school, recreational facility, or business property open to the public; or
2. On the premises of any industrial establishment providing parking space for customers, patrons, or employees; or
3. On any highway under construction or not yet open to the public


IIRC the change to the 80+ mph no matter what came as a result of the "civil remedial fee" debacle - for those that dont know, for a brief time, residents of the state in certain cases had to pay additional fines based on the severity of the crime. In a case like reckless driving it was 2500 bucks. In any event after a huge outcry (laughably these asshats, except for the knucklehead who wrote the law in an effort to cover a shortfall in revenue almost to a one wondered how the hell they ever passed it) the changed the law, ending the civil remedial fee sorta... except now its in the reckless driving fine which as you've read can be up to 2500 bucks.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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that last one, 15, that's ridiculous.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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I'm not reading all of that bob
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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That was actually an interesting read on reckless driving. I agree that some of them are pretty ridiculous, like the over 80 rule, and the failure to signal thing. Really? reckless driving for not using a turn signal? That's pretty harsh. One thing I thought was interesting though was the one on racing. If I'm reading it correctly, the part that says

"unless authorized by the owner of the property or his agent"

would leave me to believe that if someone owned property with a private road, and gave written consent there would be no problem with racing there as long as no one crashed.
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverSkoundrel
I'm not reading all of that bob
In the land where radar dectectors are illegal knowledge is power! Or well... at least the difference between reckless and speeding.
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bob
In the land where radar dectectors are illegal knowledge is power! Or well... at least the difference between reckless and speeding.
a little of both every now and then keeps your blood flowin
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bob
In the land where radar dectectors are illegal knowledge is power! Or well... at least the difference between reckless and speeding.
are radar detectors illegal in TX?
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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They are in VA.
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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apparently theyre frowned upon here haha
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Havent been pulled over in the stang yet. Only because im trying to prove my family wrong as they all figured i would be getting tickets with it.

i went from a 95 civic that i riced out
to an 06 v6 fusion.

in the civic i was doing like 70 or 80 in a 45... story is some focus pulled up next to me and took off so with friends in the car i was like hey why not try to catch him. Get up to the next light and notice a cop behind me with lights off, naturally im laying many bricks in my pants. Light turns green i barely touch the gas. pulls me over, lots of questions ensued. Ended up giving me a warning???? some how some way... i think it was due to the fact that it was a couple days before xmas...

2nd almost bad experience.....
can't remember if i was in the civic or fusion but i was on the free way doing 80+...cop hiding under over pass and zoom by him, there wasn't much traffic but lots of cars still on the road. i was getting close to an exit im familiar with and i kinda see the cop turning out from his spot, i hit the exit luckly with a green light and turn right. I know of a cut through behind some buildings so i take that. Look back again and see him stuck on the off ramp at a red light..manage to lose the cop, even though i was positive he was after me since no lights were on.
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rmurer
Havent been pulled over in the stang yet. Only because im trying to prove my family wrong as they all figured i would be getting tickets with it.

i went from a 95 civic that i riced out
to an 06 v6 fusion.

in the civic i was doing like 70 or 80 in a 45... story is some focus pulled up next to me and took off so with friends in the car i was like hey why not try to catch him. Get up to the next light and notice a cop behind me with lights off, naturally im laying many bricks in my pants. Light turns green i barely touch the gas. pulls me over, lots of questions ensued. Ended up giving me a warning???? some how some way... i think it was due to the fact that it was a couple days before xmas...

2nd almost bad experience.....
can't remember if i was in the civic or fusion but i was on the free way doing 80+...cop hiding under over pass and zoom by him, there wasn't much traffic but lots of cars still on the road. i was getting close to an exit im familiar with and i kinda see the cop turning out from his spot, i hit the exit luckly with a green light and turn right. I know of a cut through behind some buildings so i take that. Look back again and see him stuck on the off ramp at a red light..manage to lose the cop, even though i was positive he was after me since no lights were on.
coolest story i have close to that is a few years back i had a single cab 92 nissan pickup. i drove by the movie theater and my friends where outside so i shot them the bird as i flew by the theater. apparently the cop sitting there didnt like that very much so i seen him running to his car. i pulled out of the stop sign and took off to my right ended up hiding in a chinese food drive through,(watched him drive by) then drove through someones back yard and finally parked my car in my friends back yard! only time ive ran & escaped! cool night
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSkoundrel

coolest story i have close to that is a few years back i had a single cab 92 nissan pickup. i drove by the movie theater and my friends where outside so i shot them the bird as i flew by the theater. apparently the cop sitting there didnt like that very much so i seen him running to his car. i pulled out of the stop sign and took off to my right ended up hiding in a chinese food drive through,(watched him drive by) then drove through someones back yard and finally parked my car in my friends back yard! only time ive ran & escaped! cool night
I was with you on that trip!
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by greengoblin5599

I was with you on that trip!
Hell yeah we where!
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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Never had ticket in a stang but I've read some good stories on here . Here is one of many I've had in a stang. I won't tell you how I put a fl trooper in the median then yelled at him for pulling me over but in the 90's living in Florida I would visit the cow fields one night I had a buddie drive me around in my t top 88 here is the short version got pulled over he had no id they had me drive
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryan.t
Never had ticket in a stang but I've read some good stories on here . Here is one of many I've had in a stang. I won't tell you how I put a fl trooper in the median then yelled at him for pulling me over but in the 90's living in Florida I would visit the cow fields one night I had a buddie drive me around in my t top 88 here is the short version got pulled over he had no id they had me drive
Wow I think the only word I understood in that whole thing as "stang". Retry in English. Lol

You ran a trooper into the median, then yelled at him. Seriously? Don't embellish the story too much now... LOL
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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What part do you need translating
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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No I speak the truth . I pulled on to I95 from I295 by the airport in jacksonville. I cut off a trooper put him in the grass. When he pulled me over I got out of 87 gt and began yelling at him like it was his fault
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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No I speak the truth . I pulled on to I95 from I295 by the airport in jacksonville. I cut off a trooper put him in the grass. When he pulled me over I got out of 87 gt and began yelling at him like it was his fault
Sounds like fun ^^^
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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The things I did when I was 16/18 are not the things I would do now at 32
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Wow haha. This thread is way too funny. One of my favorites! Haha as for me. Been pulled over for passing in a no pass zone (no ticket bc where I live the paints worn off the road so he couldn't have really pinned me for it). Another was pulled over for speeding in a construction zone at night. He asked me what I would do if there were workers and if I knew how dangerous it was. I calmly told him there would be lights and reflective vests and all sort of things to alert me. Got off with no ticket again. Another time a cop pulled me over... I was coming down a hill on a backroad and I had my headlights and fog lights on. He was coming towards me and flashed his lights so I flashed mine back and he whipped it around to come get me. Anyways I pretty much figured out it was one of those pick something small and see if they are drinking bc apparently I had swerved a bit. Reasons I swerved was bc of how bad the roads are and to get my girlfriends brownies out of the back seat. I only told him about the brownies and as soon as I said it I was like oh no! He's gonna think they're the special kind! Haha
The only time I've got a ticket was in freaking Ohio... I don't even live in Ohio! We were taking our 1947 ford woodie to have the woodkit put on. My dad made me drive bc he wanted to take a nap. I was a little nervous bc I had never pulled a trailer before and let alone the nicest and most expensive car we've ever had was on the trailer. Anyways my dad was asleep and I was driving and I passed a highway patrol that had someone pulled over. Didn't think anything about it. He caught me THIRTY minutes later and LESS than ten miles from the state line and told me I didn't pull over or slow down while he had the other guy pulled over. I said I'm not from here how am I supposed to know thats a law? And he went back to his car and looked it up and said it was a new law in Oklahoma. So I asked how am I supposed to know that?? Haha anyways I was cool about it and went back and sat in his car yada yada. Meanwhile... My dad the angry bear who got woken up from his nap was on the phone with our lawyer immediately and yelled at the cop for the next 5 minutes. I forget how much it was for but it was realllllllly dumb. He also told us we should have tags on the trailer even though it wasn't a law in Oklahoma... Haha dumb!
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