The Geek Out
Hmmm. Double the threads i see. Well i would have gotten i7 if it about when my pc was built. Still say my i5 runs pretty good. Surely 4.6ghz makes up a little for 4 threads less
Yeah sure it helps some, but its a huge difference in programs and OS being able to run between 4 cores and 8 cores. For every clock cycle your cpu makes, its able to process 4 sets of instructions, his 8. Thats a WOLRD of difference, granted your software has to be able to take advantage of it, but most 64bit based software applications now do.
For instance, I have two servers sitting here, each with 64GB ram, dual socket xeon cpu's. The nice new 6core procs. Each proc is hyper threaded, so i get 12 cores per proc essentially. The beauty of one of the boxes, its a dedicated SQL box and has all 24 combined cores and 64gb ram thrown at it. It screams at running queries and such. The software vendor is in absolute love with the speed of this machine. The 15k rpm SAS drives helps a bit to
For instance, I have two servers sitting here, each with 64GB ram, dual socket xeon cpu's. The nice new 6core procs. Each proc is hyper threaded, so i get 12 cores per proc essentially. The beauty of one of the boxes, its a dedicated SQL box and has all 24 combined cores and 64gb ram thrown at it. It screams at running queries and such. The software vendor is in absolute love with the speed of this machine. The 15k rpm SAS drives helps a bit to
Last edited by Scothew; Mar 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM.
On the other hand HT causes higher temps so your likely to get a higher/more stable clock out of an i5. Personally I have a i7 920 @ 4.0ghz, ht defiantly helps boot times. I know she's getting old, but she still gets the job done, bf3 anyone
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For further proof.
lets looka t the Ghz cycles converted to cycles per second.
Yours at 4.61 (im to lazy to go back and look it up)
one second for one core = 4,610,000,000
multiple that times your 4 cores = 18,440,000,000
Now lets look at the i7 at a modest 3.50ghz.
one core = 3,500,000,000 per sec
multiply that by 4 to equal the cores you have = 14,000,000,000 and yes you have a substantial increase (not getting into the power consumption usage argument)
BUT if you take that cycles per second number and multiply it by 8, which is what the i7 can do via hyperthreading you get a nice, safe stable 28,000,000,000 cycles per sec.
Your i5 is only doing 50% of what that i7 is capable of.
lets looka t the Ghz cycles converted to cycles per second.
Yours at 4.61 (im to lazy to go back and look it up)
one second for one core = 4,610,000,000
multiple that times your 4 cores = 18,440,000,000
Now lets look at the i7 at a modest 3.50ghz.
one core = 3,500,000,000 per sec
multiply that by 4 to equal the cores you have = 14,000,000,000 and yes you have a substantial increase (not getting into the power consumption usage argument)
BUT if you take that cycles per second number and multiply it by 8, which is what the i7 can do via hyperthreading you get a nice, safe stable 28,000,000,000 cycles per sec.
Your i5 is only doing 50% of what that i7 is capable of.
For further proof.
lets looka t the Ghz cycles converted to cycles per second.
Yours at 4.61 (im to lazy to go back and look it up)
one second for one core = 4,610,000,000
multiple that times your 4 cores = 18,440,000,000
Now lets look at the i7 at a modest 3.50ghz.
one core = 3,500,000,000 per sec
multiply that by 4 to equal the cores you have = 14,000,000,000 and yes you have a substantial increase (not getting into the power consumption usage argument)
BUT if you take that cycles per second number and multiply it by 8, which is what the i7 can do via hyperthreading you get a nice, safe stable 28,000,000,000 cycles per sec.
Your i5 is only doing 50% of what that i7 is capable of.
lets looka t the Ghz cycles converted to cycles per second.
Yours at 4.61 (im to lazy to go back and look it up)
one second for one core = 4,610,000,000
multiple that times your 4 cores = 18,440,000,000
Now lets look at the i7 at a modest 3.50ghz.
one core = 3,500,000,000 per sec
multiply that by 4 to equal the cores you have = 14,000,000,000 and yes you have a substantial increase (not getting into the power consumption usage argument)
BUT if you take that cycles per second number and multiply it by 8, which is what the i7 can do via hyperthreading you get a nice, safe stable 28,000,000,000 cycles per sec.
Your i5 is only doing 50% of what that i7 is capable of.
Yes, was just adding to that by saying 9/10 things don't utilize more than 4 threads.
Hence forth, benchmarking aside, the average person would be happy with a dual core at 5ghz.
Hence forth, benchmarking aside, the average person would be happy with a dual core at 5ghz.
Last edited by steven46746; Mar 18, 2013 at 11:24 AM.
Ok. Now a question i often overlook. Motherboards. What do i look for? Currently have a gigabyte board and its nice and all. But its one of the slimline boards so impl really limited on pci ports. Im planning on upgrading the board so i can run sli. What do i look for in a motherboard
Ok. Now a question i often overlook. Motherboards. What do i look for? Currently have a gigabyte board and its nice and all. But its one of the slimline boards so impl really limited on pci ports. Im planning on upgrading the board so i can run sli. What do i look for in a motherboard
Ok. Now a question i often overlook. Motherboards. What do i look for? Currently have a gigabyte board and its nice and all. But its one of the slimline boards so impl really limited on pci ports. Im planning on upgrading the board so i can run sli. What do i look for in a motherboard
Not sure of actual power but supposedly they pump more amps through for charging stuff ... even when the box is off. PCI Express for two Graphics cards, USB 3, plenty of SATA ports, etc.
Again, only good if you run AMD, but they make Intel boards too.
I just got a Gigabyte 970A-UD3 the other day (sorry, still in love with AMD) and it came with a neat feature I had not seen - amped up USB ports.
Not sure of actual power but supposedly they pump more amps through for charging stuff ... even when the box is off. PCI Express for two Graphics cards, USB 3, plenty of SATA ports, etc.
Again, only good if you run AMD, but they make Intel boards too.
Ok. Now a question i often overlook. Motherboards. What do i look for? Currently have a gigabyte board and its nice and all. But its one of the slimline boards so impl really limited on pci ports. Im planning on upgrading the board so i can run sli. What do i look for in a motherboard
For a mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131802
...if you can afford it. It's pricey. It will also allow you to build a PC that has far more power than just about anything you can run on it today will need. I used it as the mobo for the "future-proof" PC I built over the winter.
As Sebastian said, the chipset, socket and ports are what I would use to shop for a mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131802
...if you can afford it. It's pricey. It will also allow you to build a PC that has far more power than just about anything you can run on it today will need. I used it as the mobo for the "future-proof" PC I built over the winter.
As Sebastian said, the chipset, socket and ports are what I would use to shop for a mobo.
Oh, and prices finally came back down enough for me to pick up a 3TB HD for my server.
Last edited by stupidgenius36; Mar 19, 2013 at 10:53 AM.



