There IS replacement for displacement
6/8/11, 09:51 PM
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Lets not forget that the Ferrari 288gto and F40 were powered by 3.0L twin turbo V8s. Those were screamers and that was almost 30 years ago.
6/8/11, 11:09 PM
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6/9/11, 08:05 AM
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Needs to be more Astony
6/9/11, 07:48 PM
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Oh, so you can get your V8, or a smaller turbo engine in the Vette?
So... what, is this a Corvette SVO or something?
/That worked well for Mustang, after all...
//Love me my SVO until it broke... that was too special a car for the layman.
So... what, is this a Corvette SVO or something?
/That worked well for Mustang, after all...
//Love me my SVO until it broke... that was too special a car for the layman.
6/11/11, 10:24 PM
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There was no replacement for displacement 30 years ago an there still isn't. I mean don't they rebuild formula 1 engines after every race. Just let muscle be muscle and European be European. There's Honda's and crotch rockets for the in betweeners.
6/12/11, 05:12 AM
#27
I believe the proposed 3.0 engine has been axed for the 'Vette at present time. I think "Lt. Dan" nixed it.
No . . . F1 teams have 8 engines for a 19 (20) race schedule. (The engines had to last only 2 races a few years ago.)
However, NHRA Top Fuel/Funny Car/Pro Stock engines are rebuilt between rounds . . . with amazing speed I might add!
I mean don't they rebuild formula 1 engines after every race
However, NHRA Top Fuel/Funny Car/Pro Stock engines are rebuilt between rounds . . . with amazing speed I might add!
6/12/11, 08:00 PM
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BTW, it's interesting to note that F1 engines are going to be smaller 1.6L turbo 4 cylinder behemoths soon...
/that's a whopping *95* cubic inches of stump pulling hairy chested manliness, ladies.
//Even at double atmospheric boost which is about 14PSI, that's only 190ci... I think. It's weird how that works...
/that's a whopping *95* cubic inches of stump pulling hairy chested manliness, ladies.
//Even at double atmospheric boost which is about 14PSI, that's only 190ci... I think. It's weird how that works...
6/12/11, 08:47 PM
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BTW, it's interesting to note that F1 engines are going to be smaller 1.6L turbo 4 cylinder behemoths soon...
/that's a whopping *95* cubic inches of stump pulling hairy chested manliness, ladies.
//Even at double atmospheric boost which is about 14PSI, that's only 190ci... I think. It's weird how that works...
/that's a whopping *95* cubic inches of stump pulling hairy chested manliness, ladies.
//Even at double atmospheric boost which is about 14PSI, that's only 190ci... I think. It's weird how that works...
6/13/11, 02:51 AM
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Formula one has had to compensate for artifical performance restrictions. The tiny boosted engines are the result of limits on fuel consumption. Performance limits were first put on air intake size to in effect place to ban the turbine powered cars which were scary fast. Next to be banned were the chapparell type cars which used a vacuume engine in stead of wings to produce down force. It became apparent that formula 1 was no longer about the ultimate machine producing the fastest speeds. We would be seeing 300 mph laps by now otherwise.
6/13/11, 04:52 AM
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Corvette won in both classes where competed this past weekend at LeMans 24 hours race, finishing ahead of Ferrari 458 Italia and Porsche 911.
6/13/11, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
A small turbo-diesel Audi won overall . . . .
Maybe I'm wrong though
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6/13/11, 08:40 AM
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yes.. that is just amazing to watch, they can rebuild a complete drivetrain in under 1 hour.. freaking insane..
and just a fun fact.. There is enough fuel in the cylinder that it is almost at the point of hydrolock at WOT in those cars..
6/13/11, 01:47 PM
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worth noting that the Corvettes are a factory effort, their team is using resources to build and race their card not available to the second-place team, AF Corse, whose Ferrari finished on the same lap.
6/14/11, 09:28 PM
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for what its worth, using torque per cube or torque per liter is a better way of comparing engines since torque is an aggregate measure of the engines breathing and mechanical effciency and is not skewed by time like HP is, for example; the Lambo's V12 makes 1.11 ft/lbs per cubic inch at peak HP and the Mustang GT makes 1.10 ft/lbs per cube at peak HP.
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6/23/11, 05:41 PM
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An excellent example within Ford's own stable is the Boss 302, in almost every metric the Boss is better than the GT with the only trade off being a slight loss of torque for more upper RPM power. Its 440hp is only coming in at 1.02 ft/lbs per cube. If the Boss could maintain the GT's ft/lbs per cube in stock trim (or advetised trim as the case may be) it would be knocking down 480+ hp at its 7500 peak power.
In an apples to apples comparison at peak power, the Boss is running out of steam for whatever reason which may or may not be a physical limitation of the engine.
By the by, if the Boss can maintain that 1.02 ft/lbs per cube at 8250 it would make around 480 hp as well.
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