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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Help!!!!! Camaro Is Spraying Coffee

ok so my friend and i were working on our project camaro, and it finally started up, running and the like. no issues there (other than our then dead battery) but the ****ed thing is spraying some sort of fluid all over, so we killed it after 2 seconds. what the hell is this stuff???? pics attached..

please help, we are losteded

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Loks like coolant in the oil. Pull the dipstick and see if it is milky, in fact check all the fluids. Then run a compression test.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Did you flush the radiator?

Some brands of radiator "Stop-Leak" will make the water looked like coffee and cream.

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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I think you guys might be right. We probably screwed up on the intake gaskets when we were installing those, most likely the back end, since thats what's giving us the spray. The coolant passages have gotta be mixing with the oil

As for flushing the coolant, we need to actually drain it all, and refill it, sicne we neglected to drain it when we were doing the intake swap and spray that all over as well

*sigh* looks like its time to dismantle all that we did

heres some more pics, sans bad language



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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Looks like oil and coolant trying to mix together.
Pull it apart and take your time putting it together again.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Yeah, water in the oil. Not good...
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Gonna have to flush the oil system, get some cheap oil filters and about 12 quarts of cheap oil and change it till its just oil, that is after you've fixed the leak.

Are they late model heads, Y'know I ran into a similar problem on an 86 IROC with the 300 hp 350 crate motor - GM machined the heads for a 1 piece intake manifold gasket and I didn't know about it, when I bumped the engine over to start it up I felt a rush of air, but didn't think anything about it, turns out the registers on the intake manifold (Accel Super Ram) interfered with the 1 piece manifold gasket flange and kept the manifold from resting on the gaskets, the fix was easy, just needed to trim the registers.

Some things you need to question, like has the block been decked and have the heads been surfaced/trued/ect.? If this relationship has been altered substantially from stcok then the angle of the manifold face to the head could be off, creating a leak, also did the gaskets slip during installation (I like to glue them to heads myself), is the manifold flange true? Did then manifold ends have to be machined? Was the manifold torqued down correctly? Is it cracked - Probably the best thing to do is pull the manifold and check everything out and start over.

One last thing is this a flat tappet or is it a roller motor? If it is a flat tappet motor, get something like Shell Rotella T and GM EOS(think thats it, IIRC its loaded with high pressure lubricants) for the break in, then keep on using the desiel oil from here on out.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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The motor, other than that intake, carb spacer and carb, is bone stock underneath. It was rebuilt 40K miles ago tough.

the camaro is an '86, so its an LT4 motor I think. Not sure if that counts as late model, I'm not exactly up to par when it comes to GM mechanics. Because of that, I'm not sure if it's a roller or flat tappet; I don't know when GM made the switch.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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I think it's a sign to stick with Ford stuff. I keed! I keed! Hope you get it running right then maybe you can have the "battle of the project cars" between the Mustang II and the Camaro when everything's done.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by future9er24
The motor, other than that intake, carb spacer and carb, is bone stock underneath. It was rebuilt 40K miles ago tough.

the camaro is an '86, so its an LT4 motor I think. Not sure if that counts as late model, I'm not exactly up to par when it comes to GM mechanics. Because of that, I'm not sure if it's a roller or flat tappet; I don't know when GM made the switch.

Naw, should be just a regular ol GM small block. You can tell the later model cylinderheads made for the 1 piece gasket, they have a step machined into the intake face. IIRC the LT engines didn't come out till 1993 (the last great SBC revision, well that is except for the opti-spark???? distributor that mounted down below on the crank, everything was cool till the water pump failed)
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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you should have pulled the heads off for some porting.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by karman
Looks like oil and coolant trying to mix together.
Pull it apart and take your time putting it together again.
+2... That's exactly what it is...I had a similar problem years ago
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bob
Naw, should be just a regular ol GM small block. You can tell the later model cylinderheads made for the 1 piece gasket, they have a step machined into the intake face. IIRC the LT engines didn't come out till 1993 (the last great SBC revision, well that is except for the opti-spark???? distributor that mounted down below on the crank, everything was cool till the water pump failed)
Fair enough. I do know my engine code had a 4 and an L in it. The 4 for sure, the L maybe a hallucination on my part. whatever
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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LG4 - 5.0(305) 165hp@4400 250 ft/lbs@2000

some 3rd gen info - http://www.f-body.org/tech/tech.htm#ThirdGen
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Thanks! Though I don't think ours has the 165hp, rather, it was the 155hp (it's not a Z28, just a standard coupe with the 305)

Either way, I'd like to hope I'm over 165 by now lol. I am impressed by the stock torque figure though (not as much as the II though )

I knew I wasn't completely off on the motor code
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