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Old 2/6/12, 10:00 AM
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Panamera is actually a sedan.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance
Panamera is actually a sedan.
Too bad. CTS-V wagon it is. It has cheap GM interior but is superior in every other way then.
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I hate Audi.
Even this one?



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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance

Even this one?
As beautiful as Audi styling is, I don't like them. Reliability is a big issue with Audi. They really don't hold up past the warranty period well. So until they build them to last, I'm not a fan. Possibly a M5 wagon would be a better option.
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For some reason, German cars in the USA are much less reliable than those in Europe.

My Golf has 190,000 km (about 115,000 miles) on the odometer and it still runs so strong. I get the feeling that it's in a much better shape than my 6 years newer with less 50,000 miles on the odometer Fusion.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance
For some reason, German cars in the USA are much less reliable than those in Europe.

My Golf has 190,000 km (about 115,000 miles) on the odometer and it still runs so strong. I get the feeling that it's in a much better shape than my 6 years newer with less 50,000 miles on the odometer Fusion.
I believe that. Not sure what the reason is either. You can pick up a 4yr old $100k 745 used for under $40k. Go figure that. But repair costs make buyers afraid of even buying them used. And a 5 year old Audi feels like a 10 year old Audi.
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Big fan of the 600hp '67 Volvo Amazon from a few years ago as well . . . .

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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Too bad. CTS-V wagon it is. It has cheap GM interior but is superior in every other way then.
Sat in a CTS-V wagon yesterday at the DC Autoshow and the interior was actually pretty nice overall. Perhaps not quite up to Audi/BMW/Mercedes standards in either design or materials, but certainly nothing to be embarrassed about either.

The styling was a bit American style flash and glitz but not overly gaudy. Seats were great as I recall, rather firm and narrow Recaros if I'm not confusing things because I was rather surprised by how firm and narrow they were given the American penchant for large plush seats for their large, plush butts.

Six speed stick was also a pleasant shocker, especially in a large luxury Cadillac station wagon, I mean, how cool is that! The CTS-V wagon simply obliterates about a dozen American/Cadillac luxury car preconceptions in one fell swoop. Of course, such a excellent and interesting car will be ignored and/or misunderstood by the general public while they snap up the typically dreariness/SUVs.
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the new caddies have come along way. I do feel its to little to late for them
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
As beautiful as Audi styling is, I don't like them. Reliability is a big issue with Audi. They really don't hold up past the warranty period well. So until they build them to last, I'm not a fan. Possibly a M5 wagon would be a better option.
Same sorry story since the 70's. Somehow the glitzy ads and the flashy movies forget to mention that about Audi.
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this count as a wagon?
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

this count as a wagon?
It's probably more reliable than a Mercedes.
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Originally Posted by GT1000
It's probably more reliable than a Mercedes.

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No car was more reliable than the Mercedes W123.



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or more boring
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Considering the boats that Detroit was building during that time (late 1970s), this Mercedes was probably much less boring than Mercurys and Buicks and Oldsmobiles from that time (not to mention much more economical).



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Both of those are awesome. I'd cruise around in either of them right now.
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Yeah, if you're 90 years old and don't mind 6 mpg they're both great cars.
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One of the other wagons I liked was Saab's Turbo X when it first came out.




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Now that you have mentioned Saab, I do like 9-5 Wagon.





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