Camless I6 in the works
#1
Bullitt Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: February 5, 2004
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Power: 220kW @ 7200rpm
Torque: 460Nm @ 4600rpm (400Nm from 1200rpm)
Bore: 94mm
Stroke: 96mm
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Construction: Lightweight Alloy Block and Head, Iron Sleeved Bores, Forged Steel Crankshaft and Rods
Firing Order: 153624
Valve Actuation: 4 Valves per Cylinder, Infinitely Variable Solenoid Actuated Valves
Fuel: Sequential Petrol or LPG Injection
Ignition: Crank Angle Sensor, Coil on Plug, 6 Knock Sensors
Features: Piston Cooling Oil Jets, Electronic Water Pump, Continuously Variable Length Intake Runners, Ceramic Coated Tuned Length Exhaust Headers, Drive-By-Wire
Torque: 460Nm @ 4600rpm (400Nm from 1200rpm)
Bore: 94mm
Stroke: 96mm
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Construction: Lightweight Alloy Block and Head, Iron Sleeved Bores, Forged Steel Crankshaft and Rods
Firing Order: 153624
Valve Actuation: 4 Valves per Cylinder, Infinitely Variable Solenoid Actuated Valves
Fuel: Sequential Petrol or LPG Injection
Ignition: Crank Angle Sensor, Coil on Plug, 6 Knock Sensors
Features: Piston Cooling Oil Jets, Electronic Water Pump, Continuously Variable Length Intake Runners, Ceramic Coated Tuned Length Exhaust Headers, Drive-By-Wire
The coolest thing about this engine is the fact it has no camshaft though. It has solenoid actuated valves Not even Indy cars have those .. this is a revolutionary idea. Let's hope Ford doesn't drop the ball. (This motor will first see duty in the Falcon of Austrailia .. as usual we are behind them .. )
#2
I've read a couple of stories (Ford Aussie sites, and somewhere else . . :scratch: )regarding this engine (and a v8 version), some have stated that this is a hoax, while others seem to varify the design.
I'll see what I can dig up in the next few days when I have some more time. Your are very correct in your assesment of a revolutionary idea . . if/when the motor is released.
I'll see what I can dig up in the next few days when I have some more time. Your are very correct in your assesment of a revolutionary idea . . if/when the motor is released.
#4
Originally posted by Dr Iven@September 15, 2004, 7:58 PM
Cost is an issue, though, as well. Porsche I6's can put out well over 300hp N/A. But, they cost an arm and a leg. If they can keep cost relatively low, this may be the future.
Cost is an issue, though, as well. Porsche I6's can put out well over 300hp N/A. But, they cost an arm and a leg. If they can keep cost relatively low, this may be the future.
But you have a good point in terms of cost.
#6
Bullitt Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: February 5, 2004
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Evil_Capri+September 15, 2004, 8:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil_Capri @ September 15, 2004, 8:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr Iven@September 15, 2004, 7:58 PM
Cost is an issue, though, as well. Porsche I6's can put out well over 300hp N/A. But, they cost an arm and a leg. If they can keep cost relatively low, this may be the future.
Cost is an issue, though, as well. Porsche I6's can put out well over 300hp N/A. But, they cost an arm and a leg. If they can keep cost relatively low, this may be the future.
But you have a good point in terms of cost. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, flat or boxer sixes are MUCH different than an I6. Flat or boxer just means they are horizontally opposed cylinders.
#7
Siemens has been doing quite a lot of development on solenoid actuated valves.
This is the wave of the future, a lot of frictional losses from the camshaft(s) will be eliminated.
This is the wave of the future, a lot of frictional losses from the camshaft(s) will be eliminated.
#8
Originally posted by sonic98gt@September 15, 2004, 8:28 PM
There's already a technology out there, proven even on a 5L Ford. No cam, NO VALVES, no oil needed on the top end.
COATES
I don't get why, except perhapse cost, this thing hasn't taken off! Pretty cool stuff if you take the time to read through it.
There's already a technology out there, proven even on a 5L Ford. No cam, NO VALVES, no oil needed on the top end.
COATES
I don't get why, except perhapse cost, this thing hasn't taken off! Pretty cool stuff if you take the time to read through it.
If I remember right, they put it on a Ford 302 and it made impressive power.
#9
When I was in trade school in '91 one of my teachers told us about the technology,and the big three in Detroit had been working on it for a few years. Even back then they had major durability problems with it. No manufacturer will produce a new technology that won't last at least 36K miles
#10
GTR Member
Originally posted by Galaxie@September 15, 2004, 10:00 PM
Siemens has been doing quite a lot of development on solenoid actuated valves.
This is the wave of the future, a lot of frictional losses from the camshaft(s) will be eliminated.
Siemens has been doing quite a lot of development on solenoid actuated valves.
This is the wave of the future, a lot of frictional losses from the camshaft(s) will be eliminated.
#13
The great thing about camless engines is the fact that they can be very finely controlled...each cylinder can have different valve timings and such... I'm sure that with the right design, they could outlast current engines.
Maybe we'll see it in an BMW M beater, I wouldn't mind :drive:
Maybe we'll see it in an BMW M beater, I wouldn't mind :drive:
#14
GTR Member
Originally posted by Dr Iven@September 16, 2004, 5:53 PM
Hmm... I stand corrected.
Regardless, if cost cannot be kept low, what good is the technology?
Hmm... I stand corrected.
Regardless, if cost cannot be kept low, what good is the technology?
#16
#17
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Antigini-GT/CS
2005-2009 Mustang
5
10/5/15 09:43 AM
tj@steeda
2015 - 2023 MUSTANG
0
9/24/15 08:15 PM