American Auto Industry and Unions
#101
I don't know I still don't see the quality in the imports at all. My wife is a Honda lover (I know, I know) but she still insist that the american market has better quality. Her dad's tundra is in my opinion and hers not as refined as the american market.
By the way I saw a new F-350 Harley edition man was it nice, anyone else had the pleasure of seeing one yet?
By the way I saw a new F-350 Harley edition man was it nice, anyone else had the pleasure of seeing one yet?
#103
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here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
#104
My take on the many factors causing the decline of the big 2.5:
* bad management decisions
* increasing healthcare costs for retirees & workers
* concessions to UAW that cut into profits
* increasing competition from Europe & Asia
* lack of desirable products/ old products (in the car segment; their trucks are doing very well)
* somewhat undeserved reputation for poor quality
* overhype of the imports' quality and reliablility
Another thing that is not mentioned is that GM and Ford are old, large companies and they are in "decline" stage of their life cycles. Nothing can keep growing and expanding forever. There are peaks and valleys. The Japanese and Korean automakers are much younger and are still in their growth stages. When they are as old as Ford and GM I believe they will have similar problems. Look at one of the oldest European automakers, Mercedes. Their quality is at an all time low and so are their growth and profits. But I don't expect them to go away anytime soon.
In the IT world, In the '90s IBM was in the stage of its lifecycle that GM is in now. They were able to stop the decline by downsizing, restructuring and rethinking their business and concentrating on services rather than hardware, thanks to some skillfull leadership. They are doing quite well today.
Ford is not in as bad shape as GM; they have new products in the car segment and seem to be moving away from the dependence on trucks/SUVs.
* bad management decisions
* increasing healthcare costs for retirees & workers
* concessions to UAW that cut into profits
* increasing competition from Europe & Asia
* lack of desirable products/ old products (in the car segment; their trucks are doing very well)
* somewhat undeserved reputation for poor quality
* overhype of the imports' quality and reliablility
Another thing that is not mentioned is that GM and Ford are old, large companies and they are in "decline" stage of their life cycles. Nothing can keep growing and expanding forever. There are peaks and valleys. The Japanese and Korean automakers are much younger and are still in their growth stages. When they are as old as Ford and GM I believe they will have similar problems. Look at one of the oldest European automakers, Mercedes. Their quality is at an all time low and so are their growth and profits. But I don't expect them to go away anytime soon.
In the IT world, In the '90s IBM was in the stage of its lifecycle that GM is in now. They were able to stop the decline by downsizing, restructuring and rethinking their business and concentrating on services rather than hardware, thanks to some skillfull leadership. They are doing quite well today.
Ford is not in as bad shape as GM; they have new products in the car segment and seem to be moving away from the dependence on trucks/SUVs.
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@May 4, 2005, 1:05 PM
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...&st=0&p=356941&
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...&st=0&p=356941&
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
I was thinking more something like this
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Back home I saw many Mercedes' from the 1970s and 1980s with over milion km on them.
#107
300,000 miles, thats nothing! The voyager space probes were built in the USA back in the 70's and they have billions and billions of miles on them, probably a trillion miles by now. They already left the solar system. I don't see anything japanese going that far! and the voyagers travel at like 30,000 MPH, no rice burner will ever top that!
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Originally posted by Red Star+May 4, 2005, 2:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ May 4, 2005, 2:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Fordracing200@May 4, 2005, 1:05 PM
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...&st=0&p=356941&
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...&st=0&p=356941&
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
I was thinking more something like this
Click Here
Back home I saw many Mercedes' from the 1970s and 1980s with over milion km on them.
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and for u, that was only a few of our membes, not a world record
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Originally posted by Fordracing200+May 4, 2005, 2:05 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fordracing200 @ May 4, 2005, 2:05 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
From that list, Paul had 4 of them with 200,000+ miles and Rob had 1 with 200,000+ and that's it? Two members?
I was thinking more something like this
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Back home I saw many Mercedes' from the 1970s and 1980s with over milion km on them.
Originally posted by Red Star@May 4, 2005, 2:34 PM
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@May 4, 2005, 1:05 PM
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...&st=0&p=356941&
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...&st=0&p=356941&
here are some over 200k mile cars for ya Red Star
From that list, Paul had 4 of them with 200,000+ miles and Rob had 1 with 200,000+ and that's it? Two members?
I was thinking more something like this
Click Here
Back home I saw many Mercedes' from the 1970s and 1980s with over milion km on them.
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When you said "Do you know how many people on this forum have fox Mustangs with over 200,000 miles" I expected that number to be a lot bigger than 2.
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