2015 SRT Barracuda
#62
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Darn shame how GM paid tribute to a Pontiac icon GTO by making that embarrassing, ugly remake and sticking the letters GTO on the side.
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#64
[quote="AlsCobra"]
The GTO was a big *** slow tank. Maybe they should have called it a Tempest but it hardly insulted the GTO name. and btw: the new GTO interior was beautiful and the power train and drivetrain were fantastic.[/quote
It's not about speed. Its about the look brother. The GTO back in day was smooth and sexy looking. That piece of $hit Pontiac made a few years back looked horrible and that's why the GTO sales sucked. GM should of made a retro GTO with the power and performance. Instead they made bubble looking turd and slapped the letters GTO on the side. Rubbish. GM really missed the boat on redesigning the GTO.
Just like Ford did years ago when they remade the Ford Thunderbird. What an injustice that was to the Thunderbird when they produced that round, ugly turd that sold next to nothing.
The GTO was a big *** slow tank. Maybe they should have called it a Tempest but it hardly insulted the GTO name. and btw: the new GTO interior was beautiful and the power train and drivetrain were fantastic.[/quote
It's not about speed. Its about the look brother. The GTO back in day was smooth and sexy looking. That piece of $hit Pontiac made a few years back looked horrible and that's why the GTO sales sucked. GM should of made a retro GTO with the power and performance. Instead they made bubble looking turd and slapped the letters GTO on the side. Rubbish. GM really missed the boat on redesigning the GTO.
Just like Ford did years ago when they remade the Ford Thunderbird. What an injustice that was to the Thunderbird when they produced that round, ugly turd that sold next to nothing.
Last edited by 2011 Kona Blue; 9/22/12 at 10:27 PM.
#66
Originally Posted by UOP Shadow
Maybe the reason GM thought the GTO would be a success is because if the Impala SS. It was big and bland looking. Didn't they sell a truckload of them?
#67
I own an 09 Charger RT and the 2011 srt 392 Challenger (along with my badass boss)
As a dodge owner and former fan all I can say is they are heading down a direction that will only **** off enthusiasts. I bought the boss because you can't tune a 2011+ charger/challenger. They win on curb appeal and styling but absolutely fail in every way on supporting any form of racing/performance enthusiast.
Their tag line should be - Dodge, we're third and proud of it!
Love my charger. two doors would look better for sure, but the challenger is just as much a heavy pig so don't see that it matters performance wise. I've got four doors running 11.79 in the 1/4 and I still tote my familly around in it.
And as far as recycling names... how about the dart?
If I had to guess, the cuda will slight body changes from the challenger, mostly gills and grills.
As a dodge owner and former fan all I can say is they are heading down a direction that will only **** off enthusiasts. I bought the boss because you can't tune a 2011+ charger/challenger. They win on curb appeal and styling but absolutely fail in every way on supporting any form of racing/performance enthusiast.
Their tag line should be - Dodge, we're third and proud of it!
Love my charger. two doors would look better for sure, but the challenger is just as much a heavy pig so don't see that it matters performance wise. I've got four doors running 11.79 in the 1/4 and I still tote my familly around in it.
And as far as recycling names... how about the dart?
If I had to guess, the cuda will slight body changes from the challenger, mostly gills and grills.
#68
The GTO failed because it was a ugly a$$ bubble looking piece that was a sad excuse for the GTO. GM should of been ashamed to insult the GTO name by placing the emblem GTO on that ugly a$$ vehicle. Shame on GM for insulting the historic GTO by bringing back such a horrible looking piece. I don't care how fast the newer GTO was and is, its horrible and looks like junk.
#69
10000% Agree, Leave the Cuda alone... We bought our SRT8 Challenger because it was so friggen sexy, a bit heavy yes but so was Marilyn Monroe..
#70
It's a nice enough looking car, but it doesn't say 'Cuda to me like the modern Challenger says Challenger. The back is too much like a Taurus too. I bought my Challenger R/T Classic mainly for its looks. I don't think I'll be buying this unless it outperforms and undercuts the price of the upcoming Mustang. (I doubt it will do either of these.)
As for the modern GTO, while it was somewhat "boring" design, I still think it's an attractive, sleeper car (sans the tacky spoiler and hood scoops) that performs well with a nice interior. Of course over-designed and over-the-top looks (ala Camaro) seem to be what many people want in this segment. I'm looking forward to the new "boring" Chevrolet SS, which should be quite the sleeper.
As for the modern GTO, while it was somewhat "boring" design, I still think it's an attractive, sleeper car (sans the tacky spoiler and hood scoops) that performs well with a nice interior. Of course over-designed and over-the-top looks (ala Camaro) seem to be what many people want in this segment. I'm looking forward to the new "boring" Chevrolet SS, which should be quite the sleeper.
#71
Originally Posted by justindo
It's a nice enough looking car, but it doesn't say 'Cuda to me like the modern Challenger says Challenger. The back is too much like a Taurus too. I bought my Challenger R/T Classic mainly for its looks. I don't think I'll be buying this unless it outperforms and undercuts the price of the upcoming Mustang. (I doubt it will do either of these.)
As for the modern GTO, while it was somewhat "boring" design, I still think it's an attractive, sleeper car (sans the tacky spoiler and hood scoops) that performs well with a nice interior. Of course over-designed and over-the-top looks (ala Camaro) seem to be what many people want in this segment. I'm looking forward to the new "boring" Chevrolet SS, which should be quite the sleeper.
As for the modern GTO, while it was somewhat "boring" design, I still think it's an attractive, sleeper car (sans the tacky spoiler and hood scoops) that performs well with a nice interior. Of course over-designed and over-the-top looks (ala Camaro) seem to be what many people want in this segment. I'm looking forward to the new "boring" Chevrolet SS, which should be quite the sleeper.
#72
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
One can make a turd, fast. It's still a turd. The modern GTO is a fast, ugly a$$ car and that's why the sales numbers for it were horrible.
#75
I could live with a version of that rendering of the Barracuda. Just change up the front end a little bit. Make it more evocative of the 2nd-gen to match the tail light treatment. But then again, I've always preferred the Barracuda over the Challenger.
It definitely has to be smaller and lighter than the current Challenger to better compete with the upcoming Mustang and Camaro.
It definitely has to be smaller and lighter than the current Challenger to better compete with the upcoming Mustang and Camaro.
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