Midwest TMS'ers General Communication Thread
9/12/08, 11:27 AM
#5541
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9/12/08, 12:52 PM
#5542
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Hey, got a question for you guys. Oh..and you too STD.
I have about 25K miles on my car and am concerned about the spark plug breakage issue. So I am thinking I at least need to pull them and at least clean the stockers and put antiseize on them. But this would be a good time to upgrade to a 1 piece plug. Champion, Brisk..etc. But I read good and bad about them. What is your guys feeling on the matter of our stock plugs?
Scott
I have about 25K miles on my car and am concerned about the spark plug breakage issue. So I am thinking I at least need to pull them and at least clean the stockers and put antiseize on them. But this would be a good time to upgrade to a 1 piece plug. Champion, Brisk..etc. But I read good and bad about them. What is your guys feeling on the matter of our stock plugs?Scott
when does ferd say we are supose to change them?
9/12/08, 02:55 PM
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I have mixed feelings on this. Of course I've been running Autolite HTOs for over a year now since I went FI, but they too are a 2 piece plug. I don't think the problem is really as big as it seems...... just my 2 cents anyway. Kinda like the dead battery thing..... mine is still strong after 3 years now but I know it will fail eventually...... when it does, I'll probably buy another stock unit. Optima batteries are awesome, but the stocker has worked very well for me so why change.
I agree with all you have said including going with the stock battery when yours goes. I know there is no power gain or real benifit from changing plugs other than getting the antiseize on them.
I don't like Chumpion plugs I have never had much luck with them ,....well other than in my lawn mowers ! I have talked to SteedaGus about the Brisk plug, he's ran then in his Stang for about a year......do the Brisk ! or do what I think I'm going to do, trade for 2010..
I also have never been a fan of Champion spark plugs. And I have to admit that "if" I was going to replace my plugs I would most likely buy the Brisk. But there is 2 questions about them I can't seem to find an answer about...at least on the web. Are they 1 piece construction? And if the plug good up to 450 HP the same heat range as stock or colder? I suspect it's colder and not good for my N/A car at my power range. Do you know? I guess I should call Steeda and ask them.
I believe Ferd says our plugs are good for 100,000 miles. They don't say you will be able to remove them from the heads without breaking the plug or stripping the threads. And that is my only concern. Ferd screwed up by designing a plug with a thread that is in the combustion chamber where it can acquire carbon build up and a 2 piece design that will break off in the head because of the increased torque required by this carbon build up. And I also believe that all of us that are running CAI with tunes and the SC'ed guys are running a rich A/F mixture that compounds the carbon issue. So while I am very happy with the performance of the stock plugs it has nothing to do with why I think they need to be pulled. You never, never, never, put steel in contact with aluminum without antisieze. Much less heat and cool it 1000 times a year. Ford screwed up on this one.
9/12/08, 05:25 PM
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I also have never been a fan of Champion spark plugs. And I have to admit that "if" I was going to replace my plugs I would most likely buy the Brisk. But there is 2 questions about them I can't seem to find an answer about...at least on the web. Are they 1 piece construction? And if the plug good up to 450 HP the same heat range as stock or colder? I suspect it's colder and not good for my N/A car at my power range. Do you know? I guess I should call Steeda and ask them.
Scott the Brisk plug Steeda recommends for a N/A Stang is a little colder than the flatrocks and is rated up to 450 hp...and my question to you is where do you think your hp is at the fly? I would guess from your mods and dyno stats your pushing 400 hp now ! and yes the Brisk plug is one piece
Scott the Brisk plug Steeda recommends for a N/A Stang is a little colder than the flatrocks and is rated up to 450 hp...and my question to you is where do you think your hp is at the fly? I would guess from your mods and dyno stats your pushing 400 hp now ! and yes the Brisk plug is one piece
9/12/08, 05:48 PM
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I also have never been a fan of Champion spark plugs. And I have to admit that "if" I was going to replace my plugs I would most likely buy the Brisk. But there is 2 questions about them I can't seem to find an answer about...at least on the web. Are they 1 piece construction? And if the plug good up to 450 HP the same heat range as stock or colder? I suspect it's colder and not good for my N/A car at my power range. Do you know? I guess I should call Steeda and ask them.
Scott the Brisk plug Steeda recommends for a N/A Stang is a little colder than the flatrocks and is rated up to 450 hp...and my question to you is where do you think your hp is at the fly? I would guess from your mods and dyno stats your pushing 400 hp now ! and yes the Brisk plug is one piece
Scott the Brisk plug Steeda recommends for a N/A Stang is a little colder than the flatrocks and is rated up to 450 hp...and my question to you is where do you think your hp is at the fly? I would guess from your mods and dyno stats your pushing 400 hp now ! and yes the Brisk plug is one piece
9/12/08, 07:00 PM
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Well I guess it depends on what you believe the autotrans power sucking is. I have read 18-20% up to 20-23%. So if we settle at 21% loss it is more like 380 at the flywheel. I may just pull and clean, and re-gap the stockers. I don't want to mess up my custom Brenspeed tune that I did back in Feb. I really don't have any issue with the way the stock plug runs I am just concerned about the carbon build up issue and breaking or stripping the thread in the head.
9/13/08, 08:15 AM
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Man - that will take a lot of root beer and ice cream!
Scott - I pulled my plugs in July - they all came out easily. Cleaned them up, anit-seized them and put them back in... Piece of cake.
Scott - I pulled my plugs in July - they all came out easily. Cleaned them up, anit-seized them and put them back in... Piece of cake.
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9/13/08, 08:46 AM
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Well I spent 6 hours installing my stripes last night .... and hour 1/2 peeling them off this morning! .. Man I did not like the look ! made the Stang look like a Skunk....Skunkstang
9/13/08, 01:40 PM
#5553
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I used the nickle anti-sieze on mine.
Cleaned, checked the gap & re-installed the stock plugs.
I'd had issues running Champions on my prior Ford products.
I'll pull & check mine again this winter. Had around 20-22K on mine when I pulled them out.
std,
I'm guessing you put on white stripes??
Skunkstang
Cleaned, checked the gap & re-installed the stock plugs.
I'd had issues running Champions on my prior Ford products.
I'll pull & check mine again this winter. Had around 20-22K on mine when I pulled them out.
std,
I'm guessing you put on white stripes??
Skunkstang
9/13/08, 02:04 PM
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Special gap tool for these plugs right? Wonder if a tech at work has one yet.
New mods, click to hear em
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9/13/08, 03:43 PM
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No kidding, I went through quite a few streams of water across the road today coming home from work in the Escort. That was nuts, been raining hard all day! I could have been at Byron Dragway in the 'stang but the weather had to take a turn for the worst.
9/13/08, 05:37 PM
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