Midwest TMS'ers General Communication Thread
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Hey ! you ice cream mogul, if you check the threads YOU started the friggin Oprah stuff....
Also could you pm me a qoate on two hundred gallons of Rocky Road so I can drowned 70MACH1OWNER in it.
Scott I'm not trying to prove anybody right or wrong, even you ....
and as I told Robert a V6 Stang has a different ride hight than a GT Coupe as a GT Vert has a different ride hight at Factory settings GT Verts and V6's both ride lower than a GT Coupe in the rear, go to any dealer and take a look and this has been talked about in numerous threads. Your right we do need figures from before and after. You must be smokin some good weed if you think I'm going to put my stock springs back on to find out....Heres what I do know Robert and David are two sincere people trying to produce the very best product they can. The fact is Tom and Leo both have lowered Stangs and have not adjusted their pinion angle and from what they have reported have no vibration issues but man there is a lot of conflicting info out there. I've contacted steedagus about there UCA for lowered Stangs that comes in one piece but is shorter by 3/4 of a inch to correct the pinion angle. He said Steeda feels the pinion angle on a lowered Stangs should be around -1 to -2 degrees at the pinion flange and I personally think Steeda is probable one if not the most knowledgeable about Stangs other than Ford ! I talk a lot of smack because having fun is what this mod game is all about but I can promise you and anybody else that reads this post I am perfectly honest about my experiences and findings when it comes to modifying my Mustang .....
Also could you pm me a qoate on two hundred gallons of Rocky Road so I can drowned 70MACH1OWNER in it.Scott I'm not trying to prove anybody right or wrong, even you ....
and as I told Robert a V6 Stang has a different ride hight than a GT Coupe as a GT Vert has a different ride hight at Factory settings GT Verts and V6's both ride lower than a GT Coupe in the rear, go to any dealer and take a look and this has been talked about in numerous threads. Your right we do need figures from before and after. You must be smokin some good weed if you think I'm going to put my stock springs back on to find out....Heres what I do know Robert and David are two sincere people trying to produce the very best product they can. The fact is Tom and Leo both have lowered Stangs and have not adjusted their pinion angle and from what they have reported have no vibration issues but man there is a lot of conflicting info out there. I've contacted steedagus about there UCA for lowered Stangs that comes in one piece but is shorter by 3/4 of a inch to correct the pinion angle. He said Steeda feels the pinion angle on a lowered Stangs should be around -1 to -2 degrees at the pinion flange and I personally think Steeda is probable one if not the most knowledgeable about Stangs other than Ford ! I talk a lot of smack because having fun is what this mod game is all about but I can promise you and anybody else that reads this post I am perfectly honest about my experiences and findings when it comes to modifying my Mustang .....Thanks for the kind words.
Robert
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Yesterday I decided to go full-tilt with my tuner, programmed the car with the 93 Race tune. I did go and put 7 gallons of 93 in the tank first. Wow, this car pulls really hard, 3k and up is just insane! 
It feels like it has a lot more low end torque too, moves out from a stop very quickly.
It feels like it has a lot more low end torque too, moves out from a stop very quickly.
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Yesterday I decided to go full-tilt with my tuner, programmed the car with the 93 Race tune. I did go and put 7 gallons of 93 in the tank first. Wow, this car pulls really hard, 3k and up is just insane! It feels like it has a lot more low end torque too, moves out from a stop very quickly.
It feels like it has a lot more low end torque too, moves out from a stop very quickly.
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Yes, sticking with 93 octane. I'm using the Escort to get to work and back this summer most of the time anyway. It will save me money on gas big time (32 miles each way). Even the 87 tune made a nice difference, but the 93 is absolutely amazing.
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Hey Tom,
Do you guys make that ice cream that is like a Reese cup inside ? If I am going to get drown in something that is what I would like to go in.
Scott,
I can tell by all of your posts about the suspensions of these cars and your experiences with all the different brands of springs you have tried that you are very sincere and honest about your experiences. And I know you are trying to make your pinion angle as correct as humanly possible. Or you would not have went to all that work to put in the adjustable UCA. Truth be known the pinion angle can probably be off 4 or 5 degrees either direction and it will not cause a vibration issues. I just hope your happy with your final results and have a vibration free setup. So are you about done with this install yet?
I want to hear road test results.
Scott
Do you guys make that ice cream that is like a Reese cup inside ? If I am going to get drown in something that is what I would like to go in.
Scott,
I can tell by all of your posts about the suspensions of these cars and your experiences with all the different brands of springs you have tried that you are very sincere and honest about your experiences. And I know you are trying to make your pinion angle as correct as humanly possible. Or you would not have went to all that work to put in the adjustable UCA. Truth be known the pinion angle can probably be off 4 or 5 degrees either direction and it will not cause a vibration issues. I just hope your happy with your final results and have a vibration free setup. So are you about done with this install yet?
I want to hear road test results.Scott
your welcome Robert.
Yesterday I decided to go full-tilt with my tuner, programmed the car with the 93 Race tune. I did go and put 7 gallons of 93 in the tank first. Wow, this car pulls really hard, 3k and up is just insane! It feels like it has a lot more low end torque too, moves out from a stop very quickly.
It feels like it has a lot more low end torque too, moves out from a stop very quickly.
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[quote=blkstang06;5541776]Hey big boy whats up ! just got home from work, got to get my caffeine levels up then I'm going to insert the shaft. I wish you where here to hold the Stang down while I do it....
Us plenty of lube is all I can say. On a different subject. I got an email back from Dave at Brenspeed about the install price of the TCI Street Fighter torque converter. It must be more involved than I thought. Basically it would cost about $1,500 plus a night stay to get it installed. I am not sure the benefits of a higher stall TC will do that much for a street driver like mine. What's your thoughts. Have you considered a TC upgrade?
Us plenty of lube is all I can say. On a different subject. I got an email back from Dave at Brenspeed about the install price of the TCI Street Fighter torque converter. It must be more involved than I thought. Basically it would cost about $1,500 plus a night stay to get it installed. I am not sure the benefits of a higher stall TC will do that much for a street driver like mine. What's your thoughts. Have you considered a TC upgrade?
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From: It's tough in the jungle !
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Yes my Friend I have thought about a torque converter. the quote you got doesn't surprise me ! Heres how I feel about my situation, I haven't tracked a car since the early 80's when I had my Trans Am (track days over) street racing! well that wouldn't jive with what I been preaching to my 15 year old son who's itching to drive, but! I think a set rear gears would be the natural progression, we both have auto's and from everything I've read a set of 3.73 would fit good with are mods ! and in fact I've seen where guys are running 3.90's with positive feed back! I think in your situation Scott a gear change would be your best and most noticeable mod for the bucks !
Hey big boy whats up ! just got home from work, got to get my caffeine levels up then I'm going to insert the shaft. I wish you where here to hold the Stang down while I do it....
Us plenty of lube is all I can say. On a different subject. I got an email back from Dave at Brenspeed about the install price of the TCI Street Fighter torque converter. It must be more invovled than I thought. Basically it would cost about $1,500 plus a night stay to get it installed. I am not sure the benefits of a higher stall TC will do that much for a street driver like mine. What's your thoughts. Have you considered a TC upgrade?
Us plenty of lube is all I can say. On a different subject. I got an email back from Dave at Brenspeed about the install price of the TCI Street Fighter torque converter. It must be more invovled than I thought. Basically it would cost about $1,500 plus a night stay to get it installed. I am not sure the benefits of a higher stall TC will do that much for a street driver like mine. What's your thoughts. Have you considered a TC upgrade?
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Auto's must act alot different than the 5-speed. I got 3.55 gears and I can hardly get traction in 1st and almost half of 2nd. I'm running BF Goodrich KD's at 265/35/18.
Scott thats alot of jack for the little it will do on the street. If you were going to race it more than maybe.
Here's a Hot rod for ya.
Scott thats alot of jack for the little it will do on the street. If you were going to race it more than maybe.
Here's a Hot rod for ya.
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Auto's must act alot different than the 5-speed. I got 3.55 gears and I can hardly get traction in 1st and almost half of 2nd. I'm running BF Goodrich KD's at 265/35/18.
Scott thats alot of jack for the little it will do on the street. If you were going to race it more than maybe.
Here's a Hot rod for ya.
Scott thats alot of jack for the little it will do on the street. If you were going to race it more than maybe.
Here's a Hot rod for ya.
Thanks for your input Darrell and STD. I just sent an other email to Dave at Brenspeed that listed my mods and asked him directly "if my car was yours" what would you next mod be? Gears or this TCI torque converter. I am sure I will not hear from him until tomorrow now. I know I can do the 3:73's for half of the TC. Thanks for your guys input. Dave has already told me the TCI TC is a little racey for the street. So it has come down a notch or two on my next mod list with this info. Since I daily drive my car and don't do the track stuff it may not be a good choice for me. But I am going to do something. I have money burning a hole in my pocket!!!
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BECAUSE IT'S WORTH IT.
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Oh just do it..... you'd be one of the only guys on the forum with a converter. Remember, it's kinda like the old addage....."why is divorce so expensive?"
BECAUSE IT'S WORTH IT.
Dang, you're old...... in the early '80s I was 6 and watching Captain Kangaroo.
Nice photo dly! Was that the first place finisher?
Hi Glenn!
BECAUSE IT'S WORTH IT.
Dang, you're old...... in the early '80s I was 6 and watching Captain Kangaroo.
Nice photo dly! Was that the first place finisher?
Hi Glenn!
This may be hard to believe but I was on the Captain Kangaroo show when I was like 10 years old and in Cub Scouts. I trust what Dave's opionion is. He didn't make it sound like the TC was a mod that wouldn't be that great for a daily driver. I am still collecting information.
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This may be hard to believe but I was on the Captain Kangaroo show when I was like 10 years old and in Cub Scouts. I trust what Dave's opionion is. He didn't make it sound like the TC was a mod that wouldn't be that great for a daily driver. I am still collecting information.
So you must know Mr. Green Jeans and Mr. Moose, can't remember the little rabbit's name.
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He He He...I want to stab you with a not dagger!!
Just teasin'.... When I think I could have been your daddy. My pee pee shrinks another knotch. Mama signed up for the new gears but did a thumbs down on the TC. Who am I to argue. She wears the real pants in this family!!!!!
Scott
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Hey Darrell,
Let's post the facts!! I am 54 and you are 52 leaning hard on 53!!
If I could have played Mr. Captain Kangaroo you surely could have been Mr Green Jeans. Remember him??? Let's face it.....we are both old ho's and it is all down hill from here. But we need to stick together and show these young bucks what real Mustang modders are made of. What ever that is!!!