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Old 12/3/04, 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by bpmurr@December 3, 2004, 10:21 AM

Sounds like someone is trying to make themselves feel better about not buying a GT. I've always wanted to have the biggest engine possible because I knew if I didn't get it I'd always be wishing I did. If you can't get the car the way it should be then get another car that you can do that with.
So, you're saying that someone should get a lesser car that they can choose every option and engine for instead of choosing a better car with something other than the biggest engine possible? That could be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard IF that's what you're saying. :bang:
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look in my opinion the term "RICE" means to have a slow car that looks fast. ie: a civic with a 10" exhaust and 7 wings and a body kit.
or a V6 mustang..... so to answer the question i will not respect the v6's or the people who choose to have the raicer stang.
But hey dont attact me now for my opinon, this is just IMO.
By the way i have 5 fox mustangs in addition to my 05 GT that is on order, and I have built everything from full suspention (maximummotorsports) to a 347c.i. stroker motor, and i repect my race car as much as I will my 05. Just cause i didn't build the motor on the 05 like i did on two of my 91's doesn't mean anything to me. I respect a car when it is a great performer. I am only into fast cars so it is apparent why I would care less for the V6 stang and I can respect a 05 GT
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Anyway................the V6 will get my respect, the owner????? Depends on the owner.
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heres the deal i have had 5 mustangs and I only care aboub performance when ii buy a car (welll 85% care). They are not the most reliable car on the planet, they are also not the best handling or fastest excellerating, but the GT is one of the best bangs for the buck (especially this year).
This is my problem with the V6, it is still a ford (not very reliable) but it is not a good bang for the buck at all. THe Neon SRT4 goes for around the same price and can drive circles around a V6 stang all day long. I just dont see any value in the 6, fords are not reliable enough in my experiance (5stangs) to buy unless you are soley doing it because it is the best bang for the performance buck
If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser
JMO
Sorry to anyone i may have offended or upset.... it is not my intention, I am only stating my one minded (performance view) side of this argument
Old 12/3/04, 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by dannygat@December 3, 2004, 12:56 PM
If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser


POSER? Because some buys a car they like? Most people buy a car based on appearance over engine size. You deserve every bit of criticism you'll get for making such a statement as that. What a juvenille thing to say. Its not entirely about racing and going fast (well maybe in your world).

If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser...
POSER? Because some buys a car they like? Most people buy a car based on appearance over engine size. You deserve every bit of criticism you'll get for making such a statement as that. What a juvenille thing to say. Its not entirely about racing and going fast (well maybe in your world).
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I lean more to the look of the car than just the engine...in many ways the "2005" is the first "TRUE MUSTANG" that I can"RESPECT" since the 1970 version...and I've owned many in my day. . from 4bangers to V8's...currently a 65 coupe, and a 2005 on order...past cars include 67 Fastback, 70 Fastback, 74 coupe, 86 coupe and an 02.... models from 71-04 were just good cars to me, not much else...but with the 2005 it's back to the good old days of 65-70... ..Rex
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dannygat ~ The extra 5k on mods was if I had the extra 5k. And I am talking stero, graphics, lettering, exhaust, custom paint, etc. Nothing really performance just appearance. And the idots with the accords, someone needs to tell the idots that it wasn't a fair win from the beginning. Tell them to go find some equal comp & then come back bragging. Or are they too scared that thell be the ones crying in defeit in the end?

BTW you call a fox body stang a REAL mustang? I actually refused a 93 because it does not look like a stang. It looked closer to my mom's 95 Escort. Yes it says Mustang on the car. But come on. Does it really look like one?

See what I just did there? It the same you guys are doing with the V6 vs GT. And it's called disrespect. They ALL say Mustang. They all are a Mustang. I thought that was what this formun was about. The Mustang. Not the GT mustang or the V6 Mustang or the Cobra Mustang. But about Mustangs as a whole. And the respect that we as Mustang owners should show for ALL other Mustang and their owners until given just cause to do otherwise.


VintageMustang302 ~ Thank you but my mommy loves me just fine. Escpecially since I am the baby by 10 years. I don't work on my own cars for several reasons. Mainly because my entire family, my uncle, grandfather, brother, cousin, etc.... was always dealing in the car business & fixing them or stripping them for parts. And so growing up around that it bord me. I was around it from the time I was born & it just never really caught my interest.

Futhermore, I don't NEED anyones respect. And nor am I asking for it. I am just trying to figure out what the deal is. some of you GT owners think anything below the GT is trash basically. Well, the corvetts, vipers, cobras, mach I's, etc could say the same for anything below their cars as well. Then you would be in my position. I personally would NEVER own a 4cyl. It is a car but not one I would own. It's either 6cyl and above or nothing for me. But am I dissing the 4cyl? No.


bpmurr ~ WRONG! I fell peachy king jelly bean. I don't need to feel any better especially about my decision to purchase at V6 instead of GT. If I wanted a GT I WOULD find a way to purchase one. I am getting the car I WANT. And will not settle for less than what I ordered.

Also, if I wanted the engine. I would buy a 268,000 Aston Martin V12 Vanguish. My dream car. But we country folk is poor. Besides like I stated above my brother & most of my family can work on cars. So therefore if I decide later I want more HP then I can always have my brother change out the motor & whatever else that entails.

Cheers mates. Kera
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Originally posted by Proc+December 3, 2004, 2:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Proc @ December 3, 2004, 2:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-dannygat@December 3, 2004, 12:56 PM
If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser


POSER? Because some buys a car they like? Most people buy a car based on appearance over engine size. You deserve every bit of criticism you'll get for making such a statement as that. What a juvenille thing to say. Its not entirely about racing and going fast (well maybe in your world).

If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser...
POSER? Because some buys a car they like? Most people buy a car based on appearance over engine size. You deserve every bit of criticism you'll get for making such a statement as that. What a juvenille thing to say. Its not entirely about racing and going fast (well maybe in your world). [/b][/quote]
I am a performance guy and could care less for how a car looks compaired to how it performs for my dollar. and on that note the fox body's being the cheepest stang to mod it is THE Stang. I dont think there would be a stang if not for he 87-93 stang that got all the enthusiast out and buyiung.... it is still the most aced stang.... but this means nothing to you guy's/gal's that just want a "cute" car.
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Originally posted by dannygat@December 3, 2004, 12:56 PM
If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser
JMO
so I own a Cobra. guess that makes you the Poser now. quit dissin' people who buy mustangs. foolish. :notnice:
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Originally posted by dannygat+December 3, 2004, 5:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dannygat @ December 3, 2004, 5:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Proc@December 3, 2004, 2:39 PM
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If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser


POSER? Because some buys a car they like? Most people buy a car based on appearance over engine size. You deserve every bit of criticism you'll get for making such a statement as that. What a juvenille thing to say. Its not entirely about racing and going fast (well maybe in your world).
I am a performance guy and could care less for how a car looks compaired to how it performs for my dollar. and on that note the fox body's being the cheepest stang to mod it is THE Stang. I dont think there would be a stang if not for he 87-93 stang that got all the enthusiast out and buyiung.... it is still the most aced stang.... but this means nothing to you guy's/gal's that just want a "cute" car. [/b][/quote]
It tells me that you like having you hiney kicked by a modded 04 Cobra. Just because your 93 Cobra R is easier to MOD & was cheaper. Because stock the 04 puts out 390HP while the 93 was only able to hold 335.

And so what if I get a "cute"car. I am a girl. I am supossed to drive a "cute" car. It's almost expected of the female in this day and age. At least I am not driving a VW bug with flowers all over it like a hippy.

Besides you may beat me on the track, that is if I ever have a blond enough day to go. But at least my car would come closer to winning a beauty pagent where as yours, more than likely, wouldn't win at a dog show. :angry:

Also, at least my car doesn't look like a box.....a "rice" box
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Originally posted by kerafaith+December 4, 2004, 1:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kerafaith @ December 4, 2004, 1:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by dannygat@December 3, 2004, 5:28 PM
Originally posted by Proc@December 3, 2004, 2:39 PM
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If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser


POSER? Because some buys a car they like? Most people buy a car based on appearance over engine size. You deserve every bit of criticism you'll get for making such a statement as that. What a juvenille thing to say. Its not entirely about racing and going fast (well maybe in your world).


I am a performance guy and could care less for how a car looks compaired to how it performs for my dollar. and on that note the fox body's being the cheepest stang to mod it is THE Stang. I dont think there would be a stang if not for he 87-93 stang that got all the enthusiast out and buyiung.... it is still the most aced stang.... but this means nothing to you guy's/gal's that just want a "cute" car.
It tells me that you like having you hiney kicked by a modded 04 Cobra. Just because your 93 Cobra R is easier to MOD & was cheaper. Because stock the 04 puts out 390HP while the 93 was only able to hold 335.

And so what if I get a "cute"car. I am a girl. I am supossed to drive a "cute" car. It's almost expected of the female in this day and age. At least I am not driving a VW bug with flowers all over it like a hippy.

Besides you may beat me on the track, that is if I ever have a blond enough day to go. But at least my car would come closer to winning a beauty pagent where as yours, more than likely, wouldn't win at a dog show. :angry:

Also, at least my car doesn't look like a box.....a "rice" box [/b][/quote]
ummm. okay, i have a 05 GT comming in Jan.... so i will have the cute car and the fast car.... and as for the 04 cobra...lol my 05 will have twinturbos by march and you can read all about it then... and the 93 cobra had 235hp not 335, and i never had a 93 cobra i have had 3 91's and 2 92's
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look the question was will v6 owners get respect from gt owners... and it is a poll, so you know where my answer is and I know where yours is. Thats all great and we are all intitled to our own opinion thats what makes forums so great
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For 05 the body is the same .Front end, rear end ,wheels and motor are the "most" noticeable differances .
Everyone that is buying one 6 or 8 is buying for what they need or want out of a mustang.
Bottom line is that there both great looking cars that are turning heads ,and to me thats respect and appreciation for a mustang.
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Originally posted by dannygat@December 3, 2004, 1:56 PM
...If you are buying the V6 just for the look (there cant be anyother reason once you take all the performance out) then there is a word for that....Poser
JMO
Sorry to anyone i may have offended or upset.... it is not my intention, I am only stating my one minded (performance view) side of this argument
I'm not slamming you, eace: this is my opinion & take on the outlook:
I'm buying a V6 as offered by Ford, so I am not a "Poser". I would be a "Poser' if I took my V6 & stuck "GT" or "Cobra" emblems on it. Bragging rights on the street mean nothing! Take it to the track. It takes me 40 min. to get to work. It takes a GT 40 mins. the same same distance because of traffic volume, stop signs & traffic lights. This past month in the Philly area there are 2 dead Mustang drivers that thought they were "All That". They're dead. They're cars are totatled rapped around poles. I'll state this again infactically, You may beat ME in a straight line, but an oval or road course will be another story. If I could have afforded it, I most definately would have gotten' a GT, & would have been proud, rightly so of the extra power. But I certainly would not look down at V6 owners as posers. For what? Having good taste in styling? I'm new to the Mustang fold so I LOVE & ADMIRE all my brethren. Heck, I used to hate FOX bodies. but since ordering mine, & getting jazzed about the Heritage, I now love them too. I'll certainly be rooting for them at the drag races where they seem to be the prominate representative for all us Mustangs.. Love to all!
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There's going to be V6 people who just feel inferior....unnecessarily. And there will be V8 people who need to feel superior.....again, unnecessarily.

The rest of us realize you bought what you bought because of need or preference. They are all Mustangs, no matter how many cylinders.

Just ask a 911 Turbo owner whether he feels shortchanged having just 6 cylinders.
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Originally posted by dannygat@December 4, 2004, 2:34 AM
we are all intitled to our own
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To your comments DanyGat-


You have to stop dissing people who bought the V6. Just because you are in it for performance doesn't mean they are. Maybe they want a GREAT looking car, that gets good mileage, and is low on insurance. Did you ever consider that?

If you are so worried aboubt performance why don't you go buy a Mercedes SL65 AMG? Too much money. Exactly. Maybe some people don't want to pay 4k more for a more powerful engine. It is all in priorities.



Get a clue.
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Perhaps the people buying the V6 just like the retro style of it? I know I do. To me it speaks of style of the late sixties Mustang, while the V8 is more of the fastback style of the early seventies. I think this can be more of a factor then performance or cost.

Each to his own......
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Any fool who says to you:
"You have just a v6, its not a real mustang, so underpowered" tell em....
"You just have a GT, it's not a Cobra, its not a real mustang v8 or not, so underpowered"

You get the idea.
Mustangs are mustangs, top to bottom, bottom to top.
If you think otherwise, you're probably overcompensating for something, and should probably be driving a Vette anyway
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Well said boomer!
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I don't think "will V6 owners will get the proper respect" is a very important issue to most V6 owners. Maybe to a few who really wanted a GT but couldn't afford one, but not to the rest of us. It might be better to ask "how many V6 owners care what anyone thinks anyway."

In my opinion the Mustang V6 is 2005 "car of the year," despite what MT says. RWD, V6 engine, manual transmission, 500 watt stereo, one of the best looking cars on the road, and some of the nicest wheels that I have ever seen all for US $20,000. It doesn't even have any viable competition, and probably won't for several years.

On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with the GT, but I'd rather spend that $4K on something else. I like the lower insurance and fuel costs too.

As far as Accords: I'm currently driving a '03 V6. It's a sleeper, but I have never "smoked" a V6 Mustang. I don't know why anyone would even think of racing a V6 Mustang anyway. But I admit that I do regress back into adolescence anytime I pull up next to a BMW.


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