Why people hate the GT spoiler
12/5/07, 01:33 AM
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In any case it appears there's some engineering here and not akin to the flattened out JCWhitney specials seen elsewhere. The downward slope at the front suggests additional downforce which is what a rear spoiler is for anyway.
The 70's Camaro's and Firebird's rear spoilers were actually functional too. The Camaro spoilers were designed to start working at around 60MPH while the Firebird was designed to kick in at around 70. Most people thought they were just for looks too but if you look at them you can see the profile on them does differ.
12/5/07, 04:33 PM
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This is the spoiler I want:
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12/5/07, 05:04 PM
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dunno about detracting from performance or about it being a codpiece. I was waxing my car the other day and noticed that the spoiler was actually not flat but rather had a sloping end on the front of it that meets the flattened "top" The profile is flattened at the "ears". It doesn't make sense to design in an aerodynamic element that's not functional and would add to production costs.
Again, this is a macho-boosting design piece, not an engineered performance piece -- form over function rather than form follows function. And to some, that's all that matters, that it makes 'em look badder azz, and that's OK of course, but just don't try to pertend it's the real deal as its just a bit of macho fantasy molded in plastic.
The Camaro and Firebird spoilers were actual aerodynamic appendages first and foremost, though artfully rendered, and probably did contribute to some significant downforce at speed without putting out the air brakes. Same goes for the GT500 and even the original Boss/Mach I rear wing.
12/5/07, 07:02 PM
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12/5/07, 07:04 PM
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Show me an airplane wing thats mostly flat in the front, if angled slightly, with a sharp bend leading to a flat top. Even the "wobblin' goblin" F-117's wing approximated a true airfoil in a faceted way -- and practically took a Cray computer to make flyable. Add the blocky supports and it's pretty clear that this is, at best, a make-believe, stylized rendition of a real wing, but certainly not the real thing. It might produce a few ounces of incidental downforce, but only at the cost of a disproportionately high drag ratio.
Again, this is a macho-boosting design piece, not an engineered performance piece -- form over function rather than form follows function. And to some, that's all that matters, that it makes 'em look badder azz, and that's OK of course, but just don't try to pertend it's the real deal as its just a bit of macho fantasy molded in plastic.
The Camaro and Firebird spoilers were actual aerodynamic appendages first and foremost, though artfully rendered, and probably did contribute to some significant downforce at speed without putting out the air brakes. Same goes for the GT500 and even the original Boss/Mach I rear wing.
Again, this is a macho-boosting design piece, not an engineered performance piece -- form over function rather than form follows function. And to some, that's all that matters, that it makes 'em look badder azz, and that's OK of course, but just don't try to pertend it's the real deal as its just a bit of macho fantasy molded in plastic.
The Camaro and Firebird spoilers were actual aerodynamic appendages first and foremost, though artfully rendered, and probably did contribute to some significant downforce at speed without putting out the air brakes. Same goes for the GT500 and even the original Boss/Mach I rear wing.
Yeah well when I hit 5th gear and pull the lever for hyperspace it makes all the difference. It makes me feel really macho too. I think I grew 5 new hairs on my chest because of it!
12/6/07, 12:55 AM
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But of course, for all those who want to strut about with make-believe wings, well, their car, their money...
12/6/07, 04:41 PM
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Show me an airplane wing thats mostly flat in the front, if angled slightly, with a sharp bend leading to a flat top. Even the "wobblin' goblin" F-117's wing approximated a true airfoil in a faceted way -- and practically took a Cray computer to make flyable. Add the blocky supports and it's pretty clear that this is, at best, a make-believe, stylized rendition of a real wing, but certainly not the real thing. It might produce a few ounces of incidental downforce, but only at the cost of a disproportionately high drag ratio.
Again, this is a macho-boosting design piece, not an engineered performance piece -- form over function rather than form follows function. And to some, that's all that matters, that it makes 'em look badder azz, and that's OK of course, but just don't try to pertend it's the real deal as its just a bit of macho fantasy molded in plastic.
The Camaro and Firebird spoilers were actual aerodynamic appendages first and foremost, though artfully rendered, and probably did contribute to some significant downforce at speed without putting out the air brakes. Same goes for the GT500 and even the original Boss/Mach I rear wing.
Again, this is a macho-boosting design piece, not an engineered performance piece -- form over function rather than form follows function. And to some, that's all that matters, that it makes 'em look badder azz, and that's OK of course, but just don't try to pertend it's the real deal as its just a bit of macho fantasy molded in plastic.
The Camaro and Firebird spoilers were actual aerodynamic appendages first and foremost, though artfully rendered, and probably did contribute to some significant downforce at speed without putting out the air brakes. Same goes for the GT500 and even the original Boss/Mach I rear wing.
12/6/07, 07:43 PM
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Well, no wing probably does much at all, really, till the far side of 100. So, given that we'd never contemplate breaking the speed limit, they're all a bit pretentious to some degree. But I guess it's kind of nice to think that, should you take you're car to the road race track, or Idaho, that wing would actually help you out in terms of drag and downforce.
But of course, for all those who want to strut about with make-believe wings, well, their car, their money...
But of course, for all those who want to strut about with make-believe wings, well, their car, their money...
12/6/07, 10:46 PM
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Ah, someone else with the Xenon rear spoiler. I had seen a picture of a Mustang with the Cervini's C wing and wanted one. My parts guy at the local Ford dealership said he could get one for me after looking at the picture. He ordered it, and it was the Xenon. I didn't like it, found the Cervini's one and had 'em switched. So I've got a Vista Blue Xenon wing sitting in my garage. Anyone interested?
12/6/07, 10:59 PM
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Not "All" of us.