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Old 9/5/06, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Badsnke98
#1 That no one wants a two year old used up Mustang GT/GS with the best part of it used up, I agree! Mustang GT's where never intended to be leased, even rates were favorable on leasing. People are willing to actually own them, they have a following.

#2 Ford Build & Price - 2007 Ford Mustang Coupe GT - Premium
MSRP Invoice Auto $38,220 is still missing Front Seat Side Air Bag $380
So, if that is your point why are you posting here? Their two completely different vehicles. Your chose, a wanta-be something or other with no heritage. Also, your owner loyalty is helping your G35 payment.

#3 I didn't. My point is the general Mustang used vehicle buyer is not interested in your type of left overs, so you must pay the piper.

#4 The point is your high mileage use of a vehicle is very costly without a tax write you would not be leasing anything. You would most likely back off on your driving because you could not write off your insurance and fuel costs either. Also, not much faith in any vehicle EH?
#1 So your saying that anyone that owns a 2 year old mustang with more than 50,000 miles should just unload it cheep because the car is no good anymore.

#2 no comment

#3 I glad you know what other people are thinking.

#4 I use my vechicle to go back and forth to work so write off or no write off would not change my driving habits. And apparently you dont either for proof refer to the bolded part your comment #1.
Old 9/12/06, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jcopin
working together for a COMMON GOOD is a communist idea

and the japanese companies dont need to pay health care ..the government does

you saying people should not have healthcare here?? do you have health coverage?? maybe you shouldnt either then .. unions are the ONLY thing stopping companies from stomping on the common guy

yea and toyota ..theyre soo nice ..didnt they this year just close an entire factory in india because the workers wanted to be treated like humans???
There's nothing communist about people working towards a common goal, particularly if the people involved are doing it of their own volition. What do you think made Japan such a powerhouse economy in such a short time after having the crap blown out of them at the end of WWII? As a whole, the mindset of that nation is goal-oriented, and people work together, even if it means (gasp!) putting aside a few selfish (and I mean that in the LITERAL sense) goals.

Unions in America were initially created with the most noble of purposes: to protect the common working man (and woman) from the rather brutal, unscrupulous practices of the faceless corporations they worked for. It worked. Unfortunately, it worked TOO well. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and unions are currently the ones getting fat and lazy. I never said health care shouldn't be provided to hard working men and women on the line... but I did imply that 1 BILLION dollars means there are far, far too many frivolous injuries and syndromes that are getting covered due to union insistence.

And I never said Honda and Toyota are "nice." We're talking about companies that are successful (the above) versus those that are losing money big time (Ford). Besides... how many American companies (automotive or otherwise) have shut down production within the US to fund cheap labour overseas?! I don't LIKE it, but it happens, and surely even a troglodyte such as yourself isn't stupid enough to think that American companies don't engage in such practices. It might not happen too much with the American car companies (yet), because unions have them by the *****. But don't doubt for a second that given the opportunity, Ford and GM would drop all the UAW workers like a stone if they could. There's a reason why more and more plants are being built in Canada (government provided health care).

But whatever, because I'm sure none of the points I made will even make a dent into your skull. Never let the truth get in the way of a (misguided) point of view, eh?
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i hated the most recent thunderbird it was as ugly as the original thunderbird. I'm gonna get flamed for that remark. They stayed too long with the taurus and the escort.

The F150 trucks and the mustang are a success. Build on those. Bring us another F150 lightning and another boss mustang.
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Originally Posted by jcopin
working together for a COMMON GOOD is a communist idea

and the japanese companies dont need to pay health care ..the government does

you saying people should not have healthcare here?? do you have health coverage?? maybe you shouldnt either then .. unions are the ONLY thing stopping companies from stomping on the common guy

yea and toyota ..theyre soo nice ..didnt they this year just close an entire factory in india because the workers wanted to be treated like humans???
Man, I was gonna say about the same thing, but I couldn't site my sources. I remeber reading an article about one of the US toyota plants, it really wasn't an impressive deal and was geared more toward squeezing the last buck out for the place rather than taking care of its workers.
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