I had the same problem at about 700 miles. Took it to dealer and they found it had a problem with the sensor built in to the back of the new composite intake manifold. Mechanics e -mailed engineers in Dearborn and same day the plant shipped complete, new intake manifold A.S.A.P. Car was running fine but sensor was reading the engine performance incorrectly.

 

*sniff* *sniff*

does anyone else smell a recall coming on? LOL

Too bad we can just DL a patch from the net like every other piece of computer equipment on the planet... [/b][/quote]
you know what
id rather have a ECU flash recall than the spontaniously splodin CRV's lol

or millions of hondas that had airbags that couldnt inflat without tearing in half lol

 

jcopin is always out to bash the imports. What have they ever done to you? lol

 

man u have no idea lol

i hate them

i also hate dodge..except viper

A. i could never buy something from a country that attacked us...would you buy the 2008 Osama if it lasted 10 years with 0 problems?..well..bad question to ask import people..id rather drive a pinto..

B. the one ive seen stink and couldnt hold up to a snowball fight...my girlfriends rental lancer she had i backed out of the driveway by slowly letting off brake and turned to soo into my friends truck and the darn lancer CRUMBLED 1800 bucks worth of damage.. thank god for the extra insurance lol 10 bucks =p
the amount of damage for such a tiny hit was incredible..never seen that from a ford..my mothers 96 camry is a POS .. engine seized for oil sludge problem at 60k miles..changed oil every 3k.. toyota..relectantly admit that all 07-2002 4cyl engine have the problem..no publicly though..even though the 96 has SAME engine and wanted 4k to replace it...screw that id drop in a 5.0 first lol..was our first Japanese car and will be the last..she wants the 500 limited AWD black/black
my uncles 2 hondas had EVERYTHING break except the motor lol every motor sensor.. on 2 accords..97's..he bought a 04 explorer limited
my grandmother car stalls in the rain and they tried replacing everything but the engine to no avail..92 camry with 60k on it lol..same problem exists

my fathers first van a 1978 E150 was driven..original engine 350K miles to junkyard a year ago...it was as old as me lol he got it with 20k on it

my first mustang a v6 1996 had oil changed every 9k miles.. ( i wasnt very responsible back then and NEVER had a single engine problem short of 2 sensors.. it had 135k on it when it was totalled...i killed the tranny by power shifting every second hehe at 90k 1.9k fix heh

im now driving my sisters old probe cuz i sold her a 2003 sonic blue mustang
sold my friend talked him out of financing a 1997 pathfinder and got him the escape limited during the promotion they had last june.
my girlfriend is black.. and her family .. just like most she knows.. vote democrat and buy japanese.. and the similarity is they dont know why.."she said it" .. converted her into a 98 mustang .. customized.. 99 GT rims..dual exhaust new cam
basically a v6 thats only missing the GT engine.. its got GT everything else.

my (ugh) 92probe has 110k on it..engine runs fine.. but since its mazda stuff its designed like a jhap car ..hence just changing the belt is a 2 hour ordeal lol and parts are retaredly expensive otherwise runs better than my girls 2004 neon rental which was stuttering at 11k =plol

ford are SOOO much easier to fix and play with under the hood


sorry for ranting but i had to clear everything up heh

 

almost forgot...for anyone that thinks ford stinks for having recalls cuz Japanese dont have as many.. Japanese cars still have problems..usually major

id rather buy from a company that MAILS ME and tells me to come get it fixed for free..Japanese IGNORE AND HIDE the problems with theyre overpriced underpowered crap

how many people here know about the new one recall for honda that came out like 2 days ago

for millions of brand new hondas the airbags when inflated with spilt open and allow ur head to get close and personal with the steering wheel

then exploding CRV's and theyre acrua other one lol are fun too
or the odyssey CRV and acrua something had faulty trannies
but you NEVER hear of this crap

but when the seat rail on the taurus is defective the new makes ford into SATAN

oh yea.. id never buy something from people that invented anime =p

 

My 95 Mustang blew a head gasket and my 97 T-Bird had a crack intake manifold.

I found out later that both were UN-NOTIFIED recalls. WTF, why do they have Un-Notified recalls? I ened up selling the mustang. Found out later the guy who bought it had it fix for free since it was a recall. My T-Bird almost got fixed on my dime, until the mechainc made a call to check something and found out it was an Un-Notified recall.

That is twice I had major problems with a Ford and both times the recalls were never notified.

It would have been nice to write me and notify me before I got stuck on I-70 in BFE at 1am and 35 degree weather, and then in downtown Pittsburgh during rush hour.

Well, I did get notified once for the Mustang about the hood problems. Found out my hood was fine anyway.

 

I had a check engine light come on my '94 Mustang come on, took it in, ended up that absolutely nothing was wrong with the engine, one of the sensors that monitors the engine went bad.

 

Some good news! Just a ECU reflash, same as Mike's (2005TorchRedGT). They also said the CPU detected misfire in the coils under deceleration! The mechanic grinned when he told me about the mph at which this happened (88 mph). He was surprised to hear that I already knew of the problem! He made me go and save Brad's site under his favorites at the main service computer! That was sweet! He said he was tired of having to call Ford all the time for updates! Sounds like everyone is going to have to go into their local Ford to get the update, only takes like 15-20 min. I have to go back in a day or two because they didn't quite have the completed update ready for it at the time, but they did reset my computer! Hope this helps some of you guys! B)

 

Cool, glad to hear of someone else having the exact same codes. Same as with your car, the tech simply reset the ECU on mine and sent me on my way with a promise to call me when he gets his hands on the flash program.


This thread really should be a sticky. This looks to be quite a widespread problem that '05 GT owners need to be aware of. Looks like this may be a problem on many '05 GTs regardless of whether the warning light is on or not.

 

Let me sound in with my two cents worth (probably not worth more than that!!).

I'm a master-certified and advanced L1 auto technician, and have worked both in new car dealerships and independent shops.

1. Blended fuels will NOT turn on a MIL light. Adaptive memory or fuel trim like some manufacturers call it, will adjust the fuel curve to make whatever fuel you are burning run at the proper fuel ratio. (14.7/1)

2. Reving an engine when cold will NOT turn on a check engine light. If it does turn on, the ECU/ECM/PCM has detected something abnormal, probably a cylinder mis-fire. If the engine is running properly and all sensors are within specs, the engine light will not come on just by simply reving the engine.

3. It is possible for a check engine (MIL) light to go off on its own. If the car is driven for 3 'good trips', without the fault returning, the computer will turn the check engine light off. It will though retain the fault and freeze frame data. There are many factors that go into making a 'good trip' which could take all day to explain. Things like cold start to operating temperature, idle time, coast time, cruise times... things like that. Three trips to the corner tap probably won't satisfy a 'good trip'... on the other hand...

4. There usually isn't a problem driving the car with a check engine light on. If the check engine light is flashing, that's different. If it is flashing, the computer sees a fault that could cause a major break-down. An example would be a severe misfire that would cause an extremely lean condition, and lead to catalytic convertor melt-down, and possible engine damage. If your light comes on and starts flashing, park the car ASAP and let Ford tow it in. If the light is on steady, don't panic. Drive the car when you need to, and make an appointment with your Ford dealership.

5. There is no such thing as a 'un-notified recall' as a previous post suggested. I would guess that there was a TSB or technical service bulletin on the problem. These bulletins come from the manufacturer if they have an abnormally high rate of failure with the same car. For example: Chrysler has a TSB for 96-00 minivans for the check engine light coming on with a P0455 fault. (LDP large leak detected). The fix is to replace the cannister vent valve with a new and updated part. I've replaced literally dozens for this complaint. But here's the kicker. If the valve fails under warranty, of course it's fixed at no charge to the customer. But... if the valve fails after your warranty has expired, the customer is responsible for paying for the diagnostics, labor, and the new part. So even though Chrysler knows it has a specific part on their mini-vans that has a high rate of failure, they will not pay for the repairs if your warranty has expired. The manufacturer may allow the dealership to extend the warranty slightly to cover some of these common problems, but that all depends on the specific Manufacturer or dealer involved. The service bulletins are mainly put out to aid the technician and let them know of common problems. If a manufacturer is required to, or even volunteers to put out a recall, by Federal law they must make 3 attempts to contact the current registered owner and notify them of the problem via USPS.

I'm not trying to be a know-it-all... just trying to clear up some mis-conceptions.

Maybe I should start a new thread called 'ask the technician'. While I obviously don't know everything (don't tell my wife that), I do know quite a lot and have access to All-Data, Fords computer access, and know technicians working at Ford dealerships. Any questions...?... ask.

 

Ohh Brad............. We have A Volunteer here. On site tech WAY COOL IDEA

 

Cool, glad to hear of someone else having the exact same codes. Same as with your car, the tech simply reset the ECU on mine and sent me on my way with a promise to call me when he gets his hands on the flash program.


This thread really should be a sticky. This looks to be quite a widespread problem that '05 GT owners need to be aware of. Looks like this may be a problem on many '05 GTs regardless of whether the warning light is on or not. [/b][/quote]
Took my car in they said it needed the computer update however they kept it they said I should not drive it until computer is updated.

 

ECU update is yet to be finished, apparently Ford is still working on it. My car was returned with light turned off and said if it comes back on call for update as for they may have it by then.

 

my service engine light just turned on too ;x

 

Mike, when you take your car in for the update, can you get a list of the other codes stored in the computer besides the ones the flash is supposed to take care of? I guess it's possible that some of the other codes could be related to the flash Ford is working on. I also wonder if the decelleration, and accelleration hesisitation issue reported by others may be related to the new Flash. I hope it is.

 

Is the CEL problem only with GT's ??? I am getting rid of my Mazda (with a Ford 2.4L motor.. Mazda 6I-S) because of the same darn problem. Multiple CEL, reset the battery drive a few days back on, take to the dealer they turn it off it comes back on. Mazda aka Ford keeps telling me its a software problem and does not affect the performance, which is true since the car will pull to 100mph no problems accelerates hard etc. Just the darn CEL lit up in my face is irritating knowing that the car is not 100% right.

And its not even 24 months old yet. So I ordered me a V6 Stang, custom but I hope this CEL event is not going to haunt me to the Mustange as well.

 

Robert,

Have you tried using the lemon law on your car, unless you are outside the time window?

I think the CEL is for the GTs only.

 

Louis, I'm not sure if your post was directed at Retro GT or myself, but I'll try to get every bit of info that I can when returning to the service dept. The tech went out of his way to explain nearly every detail of the codes while I was there the first time, so I see no problem with him giving me any information that I ask for. I'm still awaiting word from the dealership when the flash will be available.

In reading other threads about the hesitation problem, the general concensus seems to be that the Auto Tranny itself is responsible for the hesitation, not the ECU Guess we'll find out as things develop...

 

Mike, yes I was asking you. Thanks.

I'm still trying to figure out why the auto trans is responsible for the hesititation when the manual cars are doing it too. I'm not sure if you've posted on Superchips site, but they say the delays are to prevent drivetrain clunk during tip in under certain conditions, and can be easily tuned out. They say the throttle can be as responsive as you want. Your thoughts as to why you think it is in the trans?
I don't think all the comments in this topic are from auto drivers.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index....opic=10470&hl=

 

I was just re-reading that thread; several folks indeed have reported the same issue with the 5-speeds. My mistake..

Regarding what you posted in that same thread: it would make sense to suspect that the drive-by-wire system is at fault for this phenomenon. FWIW, my own '05 GT has yet to exhibit any signs of a hesitation.