Are there really V6 Haters out there?
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Originally posted by EleanorsMine+January 1, 2005, 2:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EleanorsMine @ January 1, 2005, 2:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by HUGLE@January 1, 2005, 3:21 PM
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My 6 is perfect.
My 6 is perfect.
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The one outside that has an engine and drives and stuff
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Dadblast, didn't even connect those two! :hiding: [/b][/quote]
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I laughed out loud at Hugle, then even louder at April. Good catch, girl, and great humor from the military man.
April, your heart and mind are always in the right place. May you and Eleanor have many, many years and miles of smiles together.
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#23
It is quite true that the V-6 Stang is the reason this breed has stayed alive for 40 years.
My first car as a 1965 straight 6 Mustang coupe with a 3 speed manual (non-synchro mesh) transmission, bought by my Dad in 1967 and taken over when I started driving in 1970. Plain Jane, not muscle, not show, but all mine.
I now have a restored 1965 fastback with a 289 c.i. / 4 bbl / 225 hp in the garage, and a 300 hp 2005 GT on order.
But the love affair started with that little 200 c.i. straight 6.
I decided to indulge my middle aged crazies and go with the GT; I couldn't afford a muscle car when I was a teenager or young adult. So I'm scratching that itch now.
But the 2005 V6 is a fine car, looks and engineering. Not a thing wrong with it at all.
Mustangs rule !! All of them !! Starting with the V6.
My first car as a 1965 straight 6 Mustang coupe with a 3 speed manual (non-synchro mesh) transmission, bought by my Dad in 1967 and taken over when I started driving in 1970. Plain Jane, not muscle, not show, but all mine.
I now have a restored 1965 fastback with a 289 c.i. / 4 bbl / 225 hp in the garage, and a 300 hp 2005 GT on order.
But the love affair started with that little 200 c.i. straight 6.
I decided to indulge my middle aged crazies and go with the GT; I couldn't afford a muscle car when I was a teenager or young adult. So I'm scratching that itch now.
But the 2005 V6 is a fine car, looks and engineering. Not a thing wrong with it at all.
Mustangs rule !! All of them !! Starting with the V6.
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After all these years,
My C/T still sucks!
My C/T still sucks!
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Originally posted by maucoin65@January 1, 2005, 4:36 PM
April, your heart and mind are always in the right place. May you and Eleanor have many, many years and miles of smiles together.
April, your heart and mind are always in the right place. May you and Eleanor have many, many years and miles of smiles together.
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Imagine this:
I stayed up wayyyyyy to late, and slept till lunchtime almost.......That really screwed with my 11 to 5 schedule.
It is 3:45 PM and I haven't driven the car further than outside the garage to give her some sunlight.I should go get some french bread, and I really need some new scissors..............but all I wanna do is take a nap till dinnertime.First day ever shes sat idle, unless I untire later and drive to sonic for a sundae.
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I want to add to my earlier post. The V-6 is not only overlooked from a value standpoint, but from a performance standpoint as well.
I am looking at ordering a Mustang this spring, and the GT I want will set me back a bit over 27k. However, the V-6 version of this car comes in just under 23k which is abig difference. That is about a 4500 dollar difference between the two, and the V-6 is noticeably cheaper on insurance and more frugal with gas.
From a hot-rod standpoint you could drop the European Scorpio's DOHC Cosworth 2.9L V-6's top-end on the motor, and end up with a powerful motor that is truly different just as has been discussed in here before. The motor made 205hp with 9.7:1 compression in the mid-ninties with one liter less displacement, on the 4.0L those heads should be magnificent.
More than just a mere displacement bump, the larger bore of the 4.0L block should help unshroud the valves in those wondeful Cosworth heads and likely increase hp/liter output...just the opposite of what you expect from a displacement bump. Even at the same 70hp/liter, the car would make 280hp, and a good bit more torque than the original Cossie thanks to the longer stroke.
Not quite GT levels of power, but the car would be truly unique and still benefit from lower insurance and better mileage! Also, if you did the work yourself that should leave you enough to slap on a set of 17" or 18" wheels and tires. Finally, finding 300hp or more in this motor should not be difficult as 2.9L Cosworths running around Europe typically make 270hp with mild bolt-ons. You wont make the torque of the GT, but it would be it's own kind of fast.
From there the sky would be the limit. Why not slap a couple of turbos on the car pushing mild boost which would make for great longevity, good hp, and killer torque? Order the car in Sonic Blue, Black, or Silver and a set of Cosworth RS6 emblems/stripes would like right at home.
The V-6 Mustang screams potential.
I am looking at ordering a Mustang this spring, and the GT I want will set me back a bit over 27k. However, the V-6 version of this car comes in just under 23k which is abig difference. That is about a 4500 dollar difference between the two, and the V-6 is noticeably cheaper on insurance and more frugal with gas.
From a hot-rod standpoint you could drop the European Scorpio's DOHC Cosworth 2.9L V-6's top-end on the motor, and end up with a powerful motor that is truly different just as has been discussed in here before. The motor made 205hp with 9.7:1 compression in the mid-ninties with one liter less displacement, on the 4.0L those heads should be magnificent.
More than just a mere displacement bump, the larger bore of the 4.0L block should help unshroud the valves in those wondeful Cosworth heads and likely increase hp/liter output...just the opposite of what you expect from a displacement bump. Even at the same 70hp/liter, the car would make 280hp, and a good bit more torque than the original Cossie thanks to the longer stroke.
Not quite GT levels of power, but the car would be truly unique and still benefit from lower insurance and better mileage! Also, if you did the work yourself that should leave you enough to slap on a set of 17" or 18" wheels and tires. Finally, finding 300hp or more in this motor should not be difficult as 2.9L Cosworths running around Europe typically make 270hp with mild bolt-ons. You wont make the torque of the GT, but it would be it's own kind of fast.
From there the sky would be the limit. Why not slap a couple of turbos on the car pushing mild boost which would make for great longevity, good hp, and killer torque? Order the car in Sonic Blue, Black, or Silver and a set of Cosworth RS6 emblems/stripes would like right at home.
The V-6 Mustang screams potential.
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To be quite honest, if I was going to be using my Mustang as an everyday driver I'd be opting for the V6. I mean the V6 has as much H.P. as the stock V8 in my old 66 fastback. There is more than enough pep in them to have plenty of fun!
Those who look down on them..... ignore them, they're neanderthal boneheads.
Those who look down on them..... ignore them, they're neanderthal boneheads.
#27
The funny thing is, when the Mustang was introduced, Ford initially thought the majority of models sold would be 6-pots. I remember reading they were struggling to build enough V8's
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Eventually the majority of sales will most likely be six-bangers, as I am sure you suspect as well. Also, when people talk about possible rebates on V-6 cars understand that the V-6 is not selling worse than projected, the GT is just selling better than projected.
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Ford is at fault for promoting the V6 as the ideal secretaries' car.
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Originally posted by jsaylor@January 1, 2005, 6:12 PM
Eventually the majority of sales will most likely be six-bangers, as I am sure you suspect as well. Also, when people talk about possible rebates on V-6 cars understand that the V-6 is not selling worse than projected, the GT is just selling better than projected.
Eventually the majority of sales will most likely be six-bangers, as I am sure you suspect as well. Also, when people talk about possible rebates on V-6 cars understand that the V-6 is not selling worse than projected, the GT is just selling better than projected.
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Originally posted by Fordracing200+January 2, 2005, 12:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fordracing200 @ January 2, 2005, 12:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jsaylor@January 1, 2005, 6:12 PM
Eventually the majority of sales will most likely be six-bangers, as I am sure you suspect as well. Also, when people talk about possible rebates on V-6 cars understand that the V-6 is not selling worse than projected, the GT is just selling better than projected.
Eventually the majority of sales will most likely be six-bangers, as I am sure you suspect as well. Also, when people talk about possible rebates on V-6 cars understand that the V-6 is not selling worse than projected, the GT is just selling better than projected.
Traditionally yes, in the near future almost certainly, right now though sales are GT heavy. I think I must have missed the point you were trying to make.
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@January 2, 2005, 12:55 AM
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
Right now the 4.0L no doubt has an aftermarket about the equal of the 3-valve due to the 3-valve V-8s newness. But, that will not last long.
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I dislike the new V-8 because it has a Wicked weak bottom end, If I bought a 05 I would get a GT and bolt in the 03 Cobra crate motor. Before you all ask y buy a GT. In NY you must have a V-8 vinn number on your car for it too pass emissions testing. I don't like NY.
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@January 1, 2005, 6:55 PM
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@January 2, 2005, 1:09 AM
I dislike the new V-8 because it has a Wicked weak bottom end, If I bought a 05 I would get a GT and bolt in the 03 Cobra crate motor. Before you all ask y buy a GT. In NY you must have a V-8 vinn number on your car for it too pass emissions testing. I don't like NY.
I dislike the new V-8 because it has a Wicked weak bottom end, If I bought a 05 I would get a GT and bolt in the 03 Cobra crate motor. Before you all ask y buy a GT. In NY you must have a V-8 vinn number on your car for it too pass emissions testing. I don't like NY.
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Originally posted by TomServo92+January 1, 2005, 8:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TomServo92 @ January 1, 2005, 8:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Fordracing200@January 1, 2005, 6:55 PM
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
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Without the V6 sales, V8 Mustangs would cost signficantly more than they do now.
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Originally posted by Galaxie+January 1, 2005, 7:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Galaxie @ January 1, 2005, 7:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Is that a reason to do away with the V6? I'd say anyone that thinks so is pretty short-sighted IMO.
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I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
Is that a reason to do away with the V6? I'd say anyone that thinks so is pretty short-sighted IMO.
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Exactly.
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Originally posted by TomServo92+January 1, 2005, 8:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TomServo92 @ January 1, 2005, 8:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Is that a reason to do away with the V6? I'd say anyone that thinks so is pretty short-sighted IMO.
Without the V6 sales, V8 Mustangs would cost signficantly more than they do now.
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Originally posted by TomServo92@January 1, 2005, 8:10 PM
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I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
I dislike the V-6 due to its lack of performance and performance parts and lack of good looks, no offense, just my opinion.
Is that a reason to do away with the V6? I'd say anyone that thinks so is pretty short-sighted IMO.
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Without the V6 sales, V8 Mustangs would cost signficantly more than they do now.
Plus, they look better than 99% of other wimpy cars.