I am missing something. So far I have not seen a price point. Where can I find that info? Does anyone have a link?

 

Can't seem to find this info (of course I could be going blind with all the info I'm digesting), but are the alloy wheels on the GT500 cast or forged?

They LOOK forged, which of course means nothing...

 

Agreed Jim, I like those gauges as well. Just another plus to a car I am already pleased with so far. I was happy to see how much of the concept they kept as well. I'm glad that the leather dash will at least be an option.

 

Check out this thread. Brad states that the coupe will start at under $40,000.

 

Color reply... someone mentioned that they might offer more colors for the 08 Shelby and since I haven't heard anyone say they will do a Shelby Mustang for 08 models for sure, I'm not taking the chance and waiting for a preferred color like a Dark Green. Since I'm #2 on my dealer's waiting list only behind the owner, not giving it up! Worst case is a Green or Royal Maroon or Aqua color comes out next model year and I sell the 07 for the 08. lol
Also, I'm disappointed they did not use a 'SHELBY' wheel on the car instead of plucking if off the Ford GT. Hey Ford, Shelby is making his old style wheels new in 18" - 20" and why not check this option. We all can't complain too much as its 475HP!!! I also prefer to have the driving lights back in the grille ala 1967 and use the lower driving lights as brake cooling ducts. Has anyone seen or heard what name is coming on the front brake calipers? Will it be Brembo, SVT, Shelby, or something else?

 

Considering that the GT500, according to Ford at least, essentially uses a street-tuned version of the Grand Am Cup Mustang's suspension I don't find the "BMW M-Type" performance difficult to buy at all. By this time it may seem that the G.A.C. connection has been beaten to death, but when you consider what that race-tuned version of the GT500's suspension with a lot less motor in it has outrun the handling has got to be very, very impressive.

We all know of the fierce competition provided by the BMW M3, and several people point to the fact that the Ford was allowed a more highly modified motor. However, with the restrictor plate now mandated for that motor in place it is unlikely that the Mustang has more than a 75-80hp advantage on the M3. While this isn't a tiny difference it isn't huge either. Consider that a production C5 Z06 could barely outrun the production version of the same generation BMW M3 that the GAC Mustang beat on the track and the picture gets clearer.

Also note that, in production trim, the C5 Z06 had about a 75-80hp advantage (and an even larger torque advantage) over the M3 compared with the M3-Mustang G.A.C. hp comparo. Some might want to argue that there is a large difference between race cars and street cars, but this isn't really accurate when talking about G.A.C.. I don't expect the GT500 to be quite as sharp as the M3, but given the huge hp and torque advantage just getting very close will deliver an unbelievable peformance car.

 

FR500C a Ballasted 3300 lbs they are capable of 3100 or below
GT500 ~3920
2005 M3 3415
2005 M5 4012

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The M3 also gained 100lbs in GAC trim.

I would say that GT500 is going to be much closer to M5 performance than M3.

When the new M3 comes out in the '07 models it will have a 400-425hp V8 and since it is aluminum compared to the cast iron I6 of the current M3 the weight bias may become better. Making the M3 probably just as fast(more like a short tick slower) as the Shelby in straight line speed as well as blowing it away around a curve.

 

Let's try to digest your response to my request for the URL to the videos...

Let me say that the first link that you provide isn't a link to the videos... why not?

You claim it's a link to how I got to this thread. How it the heck could you know if I clicked a link on a particular page to get to this thread?

Again, I asked for a link to the videos and guess what, the second link that you provide isn't a link to the videos either...

What is the point of insinuating that I'm a dumb hiney? Why couldn't you just post links to the videos? Is it some kind of secret? Do I have to know the secret hand shake?


Here they are.


http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/detroit06/1.mov

http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/detroit06/2.mov


Now was that hard?


What now? I just clicked on the links above, the links that Brad posted, and they don't work. Is it too much to ask to want to view the videos? I just don't get it.

 

I Personally don't like the Shelby lettering placement. My 2 cents..not worth the added cost, but to each their own. The new Camaro looks nice especially with an LS2, IRS, and T56. I was out of town for a week and have lots to catch up on.

 

Maybe I just don't understand why we have to cater to and spoon feed an adult.

As far as the links to the video not working, I don't know. It's was impossible to get on the forums all day, and now that I have, some things aren't working (for example the videos, the links, and the pictures beneath them).

I downloaded the videos when they were first put up, but:

1. Brad is very strict/cautious about copyright infringement so I don't know if I have permission to host them, and

2. even if I did, I have no idea how to do it. Sorry.

If you want to continue any coversation (such as this) that isn't regarding the GT500, by all means, PM me. I don't want the link getting closed down just because we began to argue.

P.S. Edited for spelling.

 

I drove my dad's 545i for a week and went back to my Mustang. The Bimmer's steering feel felt much sharper and made me feel much more confident in the car. The brakes felt the same way. I have never driven an American car that has a German like feel. There is more than numbers in judging handling.

On a side note, the C5 Z06 blows away an E46 M3 on the track. Not sure where you are getting your information from. Also, the FR500C isn't very close to the street versions. I saw one up close in person at a track event and it uses some production peices, but a lot are specific to the car.

 

Does anyone know if the order banks are open on the GT500? TIA

 

No they're not.

 

Thank you. Do you know when they will open?

 

Nothing definite. Rumors are March/April.

 

It looks like they will say Brembo.

 

Has anyone heard any recent expected production numbers. How will the production numbers compare to the 04 cobras??

 

I have heard March 13 2006 from a few sources.

 

Called SVT yesterday. he said 7k-9k with up to 13k possible.

 

If there are going to be over 9000.....there is no need for ANYONE to pay more than MSRP. There are a lot of people who want these, but there are also a lot who won't be able to afford them and are talknig about buying one of the first when they couldn't afford an '87 escort.