SIDE AIRBAGS
Well, this has been an interesting topic, with all of the replies I have to say that personally I will not have this option on my GT, I have never had a vehicle with these airbags, and I realize that the safety factor increases with them, I just think they will be a hassle to work around, and again this is my personal preference, I would suggest the option to someone else if asked, Anyway, Thanks to everyone for all of the replies, as usual you guys have excellent information.
Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 14, 2005, 9:28 AM
Well, this has been an interesting topic, with all of the replies I have to say that personally I will not have this option on my GT, I have never had a vehicle with these airbags, and I realize that the safety factor increases with them, I just think they will be a hassle to work around, and again this is my personal preference, I would suggest the option to someone else if asked, Anyway, Thanks to everyone for all of the replies, as usual you guys have excellent information.
Well, this has been an interesting topic, with all of the replies I have to say that personally I will not have this option on my GT, I have never had a vehicle with these airbags, and I realize that the safety factor increases with them, I just think they will be a hassle to work around, and again this is my personal preference, I would suggest the option to someone else if asked, Anyway, Thanks to everyone for all of the replies, as usual you guys have excellent information.
Originally posted by Treadhead@March 11, 2005, 5:02 PM
I think that wonderful safety foam like they had in "Demolition Man" would be better.
I think that wonderful safety foam like they had in "Demolition Man" would be better.

That's good stuff dude!
Adding optional side airbags to your Mustang: $300
Reduced insurance rates for adding side airbags: 10%-20% percent per month
Keeping your ribs from becoming hamburger after being t-boned by your mother-in-law's Escalade: Priceless
Mmmmmm...Hamburgered ribs with a side of t-bone!
Reduced insurance rates for adding side airbags: 10%-20% percent per month
Keeping your ribs from becoming hamburger after being t-boned by your mother-in-law's Escalade: Priceless
Mmmmmm...Hamburgered ribs with a side of t-bone!
Listen up folks, telling people they are idiots for not having side airbags is getting into an area that does NOT bode well. This is just like the stupid seatbelt debate all over again.
My car ended up without the side air bags. I have been in two t-bone style collisions, and neither time did I or any passanger sustain head injuries, neither vehicle had side air bags. In fact, in neither accident was I hurt. This however is NOT the reason I dont have FSA. It was an ordering snafu, a blunder made by my husband.
No matter what the reason for a person to have or not have FSA, let them have the reason, and dont talk trash to them.
My car ended up without the side air bags. I have been in two t-bone style collisions, and neither time did I or any passanger sustain head injuries, neither vehicle had side air bags. In fact, in neither accident was I hurt. This however is NOT the reason I dont have FSA. It was an ordering snafu, a blunder made by my husband.
No matter what the reason for a person to have or not have FSA, let them have the reason, and dont talk trash to them.
I have the side air bags and personally wouldn't buy a new car without them these days. The only two disadvantages I can think of are that of cost and that I have read the lifespan of the deployment charge is not unlimited. It is around 12 years or so. Not sure how involved it will be to replace or recharge the bags then (rip apart the seatbacks?). I guess I'll worry about it in another 12 years!
As far as not being able to jimmy a doorlock with side airbags, my understanding is you are not supposed to jimmy locks on any car with power doorlocks either (due to potential damage) and all Mustangs now have these.
I've heard that the side airbags make the outboard seatback bolsters much firmer than on cars without, but I didn't notice any difference in comfort after sitting in both.
I read somewhere that the side airbags on the '05 Mustangs have an aircurtain as well. In other words, the bags are tall enough to cover the entire door opening when they deploy (door as well as glass). My dealer could not confirm this, however. I haven't had the chance to read through my owner's manual yet, so maybe someone who has can confirm this.
As far as not being able to jimmy a doorlock with side airbags, my understanding is you are not supposed to jimmy locks on any car with power doorlocks either (due to potential damage) and all Mustangs now have these.
I've heard that the side airbags make the outboard seatback bolsters much firmer than on cars without, but I didn't notice any difference in comfort after sitting in both.
I read somewhere that the side airbags on the '05 Mustangs have an aircurtain as well. In other words, the bags are tall enough to cover the entire door opening when they deploy (door as well as glass). My dealer could not confirm this, however. I haven't had the chance to read through my owner's manual yet, so maybe someone who has can confirm this.
I wouldnt own one without them. Your very lucky Jessica to have walked away from two side impact accidents. My friend John Betus died this past Sunday morning from head trauma in a side impact crash on highway 471 just outside of Castroville Texas in Medina County.
He didnt have side airbags.
He didnt have side airbags.
Originally posted by darth-bob@March 15, 2005, 8:06 AM
... My friend John Betus died this past Sunday morning from head trauma in a side impact crash on highway 471 just outside of Castroville Texas in Medina County. He didnt have side airbags.
... My friend John Betus died this past Sunday morning from head trauma in a side impact crash on highway 471 just outside of Castroville Texas in Medina County. He didnt have side airbags.
mmoonshot-
I just don't understand you. I must be missing something. You keep mentioning the "hassel" it is to get the side airbags. They are in the seat and the only way you know they are there is with an EXTREMELY small label ON THE SEAT that says SRS. It is nothing. THere is a bump about 1 cm high which doesnt interfere with anything, and it is so small it can't even be noticed.
Is your life worth $300? I hope mine is, and thats why I have the PROVEN additional safety of side airbags (the guy on the first page was not correct).
This wasn't mean, I am just explaining. I personally think it is just ridiculous NOT TO HAVE them if you have the ability to.
I just don't understand you. I must be missing something. You keep mentioning the "hassel" it is to get the side airbags. They are in the seat and the only way you know they are there is with an EXTREMELY small label ON THE SEAT that says SRS. It is nothing. THere is a bump about 1 cm high which doesnt interfere with anything, and it is so small it can't even be noticed.
Is your life worth $300? I hope mine is, and thats why I have the PROVEN additional safety of side airbags (the guy on the first page was not correct).
This wasn't mean, I am just explaining. I personally think it is just ridiculous NOT TO HAVE them if you have the ability to.
Originally posted by JessicaRabbitt@March 15, 2005, 2:06 AM
Listen up folks, telling people they are idiots for not having side airbags is getting into an area that does NOT bode well. This is just like the stupid seatbelt debate all over again.
My car ended up without the side air bags. I have been in two t-bone style collisions, and neither time did I or any passanger sustain head injuries, neither vehicle had side air bags. In fact, in neither accident was I hurt. This however is NOT the reason I dont have FSA. It was an ordering snafu, a blunder made by my husband.
No matter what the reason for a person to have or not have FSA, let them have the reason, and dont talk trash to them.
Listen up folks, telling people they are idiots for not having side airbags is getting into an area that does NOT bode well. This is just like the stupid seatbelt debate all over again.
My car ended up without the side air bags. I have been in two t-bone style collisions, and neither time did I or any passanger sustain head injuries, neither vehicle had side air bags. In fact, in neither accident was I hurt. This however is NOT the reason I dont have FSA. It was an ordering snafu, a blunder made by my husband.
No matter what the reason for a person to have or not have FSA, let them have the reason, and dont talk trash to them.
So because YOU weren't injured, no one else will be? :bang:
The fact remains plain and simple. They may or may not save you from being injured or killed. But if you don't have them, you know for a fact they will not.
If you are going to "enforce" people that are arguing over a life saving option, how bout doing something about the threads where people flame each other over "v6 vs GT", car color, mods, and everything else. No, those threads stay.
And you are incorrect. Not paying $300 for a possible life-saving option on a $20,000+ car is not a smart decision, no matter what you try to argue. Max of .06% of the total cost? With the possibility of saving your life? Not smart. Its your own decision, but its not a smart one not to get them.
Now I know you will get bent out of shape because I disagreed with you. However, I made a consise argument that shows my point, and if you are going to reply, I would expect the same. This is a forum. People are allowed to voice their opinions, whether you view them as right or wrong. If you don't want people saying "idiot", have it added to the word filter and we'll call each other "stupid heads", just like 5 year olds.
Whenever you have people disagreeing, there will be name calling to some extent.
However, saying someone is an idiot, and saying its an idiotic decision are completely different.
Edit: And with andy's post before mine. Why should he or anyone else need to preface things with "thats not mean" because you might take them that way Jessica? This thread was not out of control, it was just a thread with two arguments.
I will ignore the fact that you said "don't call each other idiots" then immediately after used the term "stupid seatbelt debate". Hypocritical much?
I have stated my opinion about the side airbags, and have been flamed by several of you, I feel that you have been a little unfair here, I will not have this option on my GT, for me personally, it is not a concern, I could list accident statistics here, but I will not, I could say that most of the fatal accidents caused in the US are not prevented by air bags, especially side air bags, but in fact are prevented by the use of the seatbelts wich by the way are not an option for this vehicle, and I wonder how many of you buckle up on a regular basis ? Be honest....
Good point Grantsdale. I am with you on almost every issue, and this is no exception. The reason I put "This is not to be mean" is because anything I say is usually attacked and twisted by this "mod" they call Jessica Rabbit. Can't we disagree on things Jessica? To further my point, just look at your cool rendering that you posted. I like it, but every one of your posts in that thread has some insane defensiveness with criticism or people saying they don't like it. If you can't take a little criticism in life that is NOT good. I can understand you not wanting someone to say "Wow, that is so stupid, you stink" or something rude like that, but you can't even handle someone saying, "I think it is ugly, I don't like it." You would rather have our opinions veiled to but on the facade of being less direct than we want to be.
I am not going to call anyone a poo-poo head, or something stupid like that, but I will not hesitate to call someone an idiot if they do not purchase side airbags that are available. I can understand if their car wasn't ordered with it, but when you have the choice, is it really that difficult of a choice?
Not to be mean or anything :notnice:
EDIT: I buckle up EVERY time I get in the car. Honest. I just don't understand why you wouldn't order it. If it has a chance of saving your life, and obviousely helps to some degree, why wouldn't you get it? I guess increasing the chances of saving my life is a priority, and those of my passenger just the same.
I am not going to call anyone a poo-poo head, or something stupid like that, but I will not hesitate to call someone an idiot if they do not purchase side airbags that are available. I can understand if their car wasn't ordered with it, but when you have the choice, is it really that difficult of a choice?
Not to be mean or anything :notnice:

EDIT: I buckle up EVERY time I get in the car. Honest. I just don't understand why you wouldn't order it. If it has a chance of saving your life, and obviousely helps to some degree, why wouldn't you get it? I guess increasing the chances of saving my life is a priority, and those of my passenger just the same.
Side airbags........well worth it.
Hassle or inconvience working around.........none, zip, zilch. nada....doesn't exist.
Some people are lucky when it comes to being T-boned, and some aren't. I lost my whole family when a drunk driver T-boned my wife's car 16 years ago.
And as far as having to get the IUP for this option, which I did anyway, I'm not too sure about that. I'm pretty sure you can order it without.
Hassle or inconvience working around.........none, zip, zilch. nada....doesn't exist.
Some people are lucky when it comes to being T-boned, and some aren't. I lost my whole family when a drunk driver T-boned my wife's car 16 years ago.
And as far as having to get the IUP for this option, which I did anyway, I'm not too sure about that. I'm pretty sure you can order it without.
Even though people on this thread have stated they've been in side impact crashes without side airbags and have survived, for just a few more dollars a month, I'd like to have that little bit of extra protection. I think anything done to potentially save my life, even if they only work in certain types of crashes, it's worth it.
Grantsdale and BaDandy:
I have said numerous times, as have others mods, we dont care if you disagree, what we dont want is you being rude about it. Do you think either one of you can do it?
I never said this thread was out of control, I said dont be rude. I never said that because I walked away from two that everyone will, I said I walked away. For two posters who brag about thier literacy, you two seem to miss the mark continually when it comes to me.
As for my car, there are several people who dont like it, and I am ok with that. There are several people who posted they dont like it, and no skin off my nose. What I dont want to see for me or any one else is "that is a POS, and I think should be taken to the wrecker". As for the threads that go like that with color etc, they do get stopped EVERYTIME, but you two fail to see it. Defensiveness? Not at all! I think maybe you are reading into it too much.
I never said not getting FSA was smart. You say I did.
Grantsdale you are absolutely 100% wrong. It is entirely possible to have disagreeing adults with out one bit of name calling. Show your intelligence and debating ability, and DONT CALL NAMEs. I bet you can do it. Read a few of Purple Haze's posts.
If you were going to ignore it, why comment on it? That is so typical YOU Grantsdale. The difference, because apparently you failed to see it, is that I called a thread stupid, and not the people. It disintegrated into YOU and others calling posters names. So, no, it is NOT hypocritical.
I am not bent out of shape that you disagree with me, I am bent out of shape because of your tone and attitude. Simple, really.
Badandy, I am not surprised one bit that you agree with Grantsdale. The two of you should start your own little club.
I have an idea, how about if we not get into a huge discussion over what you feel of me, and I will leave the two of you alone, and be done with it. How about if we get back on topic?
I dont see any real disadvantages of having FSA, I wanted them, and ended up without them. I am actually looking into getting them done aftermarket, since my daughter rides in the front seat now. I think the advantages are huge.
See how I did that Grantsdale and Badandy? Answered the question without flaming, its pretty easy. You two should try it.
As for mmoonshots question of seat bealts, with the 05, everytime. My husband I laugh at the car being a tattletale. I actually have come to depend on that little alarm, just because people do forget. HOWEVER, I stand by the opinion, that if you choose not to wear one, that is your choice, and I am not going to be a rude jerk about it.
I have said numerous times, as have others mods, we dont care if you disagree, what we dont want is you being rude about it. Do you think either one of you can do it?
I never said this thread was out of control, I said dont be rude. I never said that because I walked away from two that everyone will, I said I walked away. For two posters who brag about thier literacy, you two seem to miss the mark continually when it comes to me.
As for my car, there are several people who dont like it, and I am ok with that. There are several people who posted they dont like it, and no skin off my nose. What I dont want to see for me or any one else is "that is a POS, and I think should be taken to the wrecker". As for the threads that go like that with color etc, they do get stopped EVERYTIME, but you two fail to see it. Defensiveness? Not at all! I think maybe you are reading into it too much.
I never said not getting FSA was smart. You say I did.
Grantsdale you are absolutely 100% wrong. It is entirely possible to have disagreeing adults with out one bit of name calling. Show your intelligence and debating ability, and DONT CALL NAMEs. I bet you can do it. Read a few of Purple Haze's posts.
If you were going to ignore it, why comment on it? That is so typical YOU Grantsdale. The difference, because apparently you failed to see it, is that I called a thread stupid, and not the people. It disintegrated into YOU and others calling posters names. So, no, it is NOT hypocritical.
I am not bent out of shape that you disagree with me, I am bent out of shape because of your tone and attitude. Simple, really.
Badandy, I am not surprised one bit that you agree with Grantsdale. The two of you should start your own little club.
I have an idea, how about if we not get into a huge discussion over what you feel of me, and I will leave the two of you alone, and be done with it. How about if we get back on topic?
I dont see any real disadvantages of having FSA, I wanted them, and ended up without them. I am actually looking into getting them done aftermarket, since my daughter rides in the front seat now. I think the advantages are huge.
See how I did that Grantsdale and Badandy? Answered the question without flaming, its pretty easy. You two should try it.
As for mmoonshots question of seat bealts, with the 05, everytime. My husband I laugh at the car being a tattletale. I actually have come to depend on that little alarm, just because people do forget. HOWEVER, I stand by the opinion, that if you choose not to wear one, that is your choice, and I am not going to be a rude jerk about it.




IMHO it is just crazy not to get them.