My Brother is doom saying liberal weenie
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Originally posted by Burke0011@January 19, 2005, 12:39 PM
Are you actually serious??....
The MUSTANG is the symbol he is speaking of?....
Does he NOT see the the flipping SUVs out on the road today being driven as everyday cars? Hummers?....
Chrysler 300, Dodge Magnum, Corvettes...... yeah, they are all tea totallers when it comes to gas mileage....
I take it he rides a bike to work each day?....
Are you actually serious??....
The MUSTANG is the symbol he is speaking of?....
Does he NOT see the the flipping SUVs out on the road today being driven as everyday cars? Hummers?....
Chrysler 300, Dodge Magnum, Corvettes...... yeah, they are all tea totallers when it comes to gas mileage....
I take it he rides a bike to work each day?....
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For what it's worth, most, if not all of the plastic products we use also begin their life as petroleum, so expect their prices to go through the roof if the doomsayers are correct. There are some legitimate scientists who argue that the earth (through the continuing decomposition and compression of dead critters) is still to producing huge amounts of petroleum. I'm not worried about us running out of oil. The $5.00 gallon of gas is going to come from unscrupulous government and oil company executives, not shortages of oil.
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"The $5.00 gallon of gas is going to come from unscrupulous government and oil company executives, not shortages of oil."
I can sit through the "Evil Corporations" talk, but let's not forget our friends at OPEC, please! :bang:
I can sit through the "Evil Corporations" talk, but let's not forget our friends at OPEC, please! :bang:
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Originally posted by Stustang05@January 19, 2005, 2:32 PM
For what it's worth, most, if not all of the plastic products we use also begin their life as petroleum, so expect their prices to go through the roof if the doomsayers are correct. There are some legitimate scientists who argue that the earth (through the continuing decomposition and compression of dead critters) is still to producing huge amounts of petroleum. I'm not worried about us running out of oil. The $5.00 gallon of gas is going to come from unscrupulous government and oil company executives, not shortages of oil.
For what it's worth, most, if not all of the plastic products we use also begin their life as petroleum, so expect their prices to go through the roof if the doomsayers are correct. There are some legitimate scientists who argue that the earth (through the continuing decomposition and compression of dead critters) is still to producing huge amounts of petroleum. I'm not worried about us running out of oil. The $5.00 gallon of gas is going to come from unscrupulous government and oil company executives, not shortages of oil.
And no, a flash will not improve you mileage enough to make a difference. You want to help the enviroment? Live closer to work and ride a bicycle. <_<
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Thanks for the many great points, this is embarrassing, but my brother thinks the Mustang is the worst because it’s for the “massesâ€, and it offers a false hope and sense of freedom and fun and then corporate America this and corporate America that. He hates how they are fooling us to want a Mustang when others are getting kill for oil.
No, he doesn’t ride a bike and has a Jeep (“it’s more useful than a frivolous Mustang, you know more utilitarianâ€). I often commute by bike 25 miles each way in the summer but it’s because I love to ride. Oh well, I love him anyways. He forgets how he got me my first book about race cars that featured Mustangs and Cobras and GT40’s almost 40 years ago.
My poor Mom just shakes her head and wonders.
Special thanks to Steve’s wisdom about not going political, this is more about philosophical perspective in what we value, hope and dream. I hope we have more people that dream in color and maybe for some in stripes!
No, he doesn’t ride a bike and has a Jeep (“it’s more useful than a frivolous Mustang, you know more utilitarianâ€). I often commute by bike 25 miles each way in the summer but it’s because I love to ride. Oh well, I love him anyways. He forgets how he got me my first book about race cars that featured Mustangs and Cobras and GT40’s almost 40 years ago.
My poor Mom just shakes her head and wonders.
Special thanks to Steve’s wisdom about not going political, this is more about philosophical perspective in what we value, hope and dream. I hope we have more people that dream in color and maybe for some in stripes!
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I love people that say stuff about the stang when it comes to "gas guzzler".
Tell them to take a 6 cyl Jeep liberty out for a bit. I only got 14mpg in mine and get 22-24mpg in my Mustang GT.
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Originally posted by Maverick128@January 19, 2005, 1:29 PM
I'm a Progressive for different reasons than the environment.
I'm a Progressive for different reasons than the environment.
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Originally posted by GhostTX@January 19, 2005, 1:39 PM
.....And no, a flash will not improve you mileage enough to make a difference. .....
.....And no, a flash will not improve you mileage enough to make a difference. .....
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When you say Jeep, do you mean a Jeep Wrangler, not sure how that is more useful than a Mustang, perhaps to take off road and to tow a trailer, but thats about it, a Mustang has much more storage space and is more practical than a Jeep in my opinion.
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UNITS SOLD IN 2004:
F-SERIES: 939,511 (33.8% of Ford division sales)
EXPLORER: 339,333
EXPEDITION: 159,846
MUSTANG: 129,858 (4.7% of Ford division sales)
(source: 2004 Ford Sales Figures, available at BON: http://www.blueovalnews.com/2005/business/....final.2004.htm )
Face it, "the masses" are buying SUVs and pickups, not Mustangs. Econoline vans and Rangers also sold more units than Mustangs (171,017 and 156,322)
F-SERIES: 939,511 (33.8% of Ford division sales)
EXPLORER: 339,333
EXPEDITION: 159,846
MUSTANG: 129,858 (4.7% of Ford division sales)
(source: 2004 Ford Sales Figures, available at BON: http://www.blueovalnews.com/2005/business/....final.2004.htm )
Face it, "the masses" are buying SUVs and pickups, not Mustangs. Econoline vans and Rangers also sold more units than Mustangs (171,017 and 156,322)
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Originally posted by adrenalin+January 19, 2005, 2:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adrenalin @ January 19, 2005, 2:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Flashing the computer brought my mileage up from 18mpg to 22-24mpg. I'd say that is a good difference
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Color me impressed. That's more a jump than I've seen anybody mention before.
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...and has a Jeep (“it’s more useful than a frivolous Mustang, you know more utilitarianâ€).[/quote]
From Edmunds.com, the Manual 2.4L 4cyl Jeep has 18/21 mpg and the manual 4.0L 6cyl Jeep has 15/19 mpg.
Compare that to the Mustang where its 19/28 for the V6 and 17/25 for the GT. Both of which, beat the Jeep in mpg.
Utilitarian? Unless he drives off-road and mountain passes everyday, he has no reason to call it "more" utilitarian.
He's a hypocrit.
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Originally posted by holderca1@January 19, 2005, 1:51 PM
When you say Jeep, do you mean a Jeep Wrangler, not sure how that is more useful than a Mustang, perhaps to take off road and to tow a trailer, but thats about it, a Mustang has much more storage space and is more practical than a Jeep in my opinion.
When you say Jeep, do you mean a Jeep Wrangler, not sure how that is more useful than a Mustang, perhaps to take off road and to tow a trailer, but thats about it, a Mustang has much more storage space and is more practical than a Jeep in my opinion.
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Lets not forget that alcohol based fuels can run internal combustion engines just fine. The fuel is derived from corn, not petrolium. Conversion to this fuel isn't that complicated. Oil companies don't want to price themselves out of buisness.
Lots of petrolium based products can be made using alternative sources, just petrolium is a cheaper to process. But if it becomes unprofitable to use oil by products, the world will not stop, it will just convert.
Your brothers Jeep probably belches out more green house gasses than the new Mustangs and gets same or worse MPG.
I don't even want to touch the "people are dying for oil" thing.
Lots of petrolium based products can be made using alternative sources, just petrolium is a cheaper to process. But if it becomes unprofitable to use oil by products, the world will not stop, it will just convert.
Your brothers Jeep probably belches out more green house gasses than the new Mustangs and gets same or worse MPG.
I don't even want to touch the "people are dying for oil" thing.
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#37
Sounds like your brother is just jealous. B)
I'm trading a Liberty in for the Mustang. It's been a fine vehicle... but nothing to write home about when it comes to MPG. Good to see I'll be doing better with the GT!
Tell them to take a 6 cyl Jeep liberty out for a bit. I only got 14mpg in mine and get 22-24mpg in my Mustang GT.
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Originally posted by Shea+January 19, 2005, 1:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shea @ January 19, 2005, 1:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Maverick128@January 19, 2005, 1:29 PM
I'm a Progressive for different reasons than the environment.
I'm a Progressive for different reasons than the environment.
It's a term that basically means the same thing as liberal but without the stigma Republicans have associated with the word. Both mean progress is good. Now to the corvette mpg, that is amazing, 30 mpg on the highway. You learn something new every day.
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Corvettes get amazing mpg for their engine size. EPA says the C6 18/26 gets and the C5 gets 19/28 but I have a buddy who gets more than that! ![Smile](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Jeep Liberty gets a whopping 17/22. <_<
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Jeep Liberty gets a whopping 17/22. <_<