CWP

Whats an SE and how much will it cost?

TampaBear67

Good God Man, Don't you read the posts before you ask a question? An SE (Special Edition) is like the 03 and 04 Mach1, or the previous Bullitt.

We don't know for sure what it will be or how much it will cost. Rumors have been flying around about another Mach1, a Boss variant, or possibly a Shelby.

However, after several of us have talked to Ford Rep's at shows where the 05 have been displayed, it seems that the next SE will be more of an Appearance package, with little, or no Performance Mod's.

Expect to see LeMans Stripes, the Intake Cover and probably the Strut Tower Brace as parts of the next SE.

CWP

thanks . . . :hiding: haha LOL I'm new to Mustangs. :jedi: :rock:

TampaBear67

It's all good man, Welcome Aboard, but if you don't look through previous posts, you're gonna get Flamed In Here. :flame2:

snakeeyes

<span style='color:#4269E7'>ONLY300 horsepower. Back in 1983/84 a buddy and I went to look at a 70 Z28 that was for sale. Had 3.55 rears 4 speed and ,guess what dadad.300horsepower 350. I test drove it. MAAAAAN. what a car. I didnt buy it because I didnt have 5 grand. Ya,in 1984 you could buy a classic muscle/pony car for 5 grand. My point? ONLY300 hp is alot of darn horsepower,even in the muscle car hayday,300 horsepower was nothing to sneaze at. I personaly have never owned a car with 300 horsepower. Oh and azure blue fonts are cool. I wishI could figure out how to use it for all the letters/words.</span>

TampaBear67

Hey Man, it's real simple to use colored fonts, all you have to do is, after typing your post, left click at the begining of your post and hold it down and highlight the part, or all of your post. Once you have it highlighted choose the color you want your post to be in. I preffer Sonic over Azure, but don't get too carried away with Multi Color posts, the Guys will Flame Ya! Trust me I got a lot of criticism because I did it when I was a Newbie Here.

kevinb120

Thats a total misperception. The offset is a totally static and virtually worthless test. Having an immovable barrier with a short absorption area does not make sense. The test is completely set up for a sub-3000lb car hitting another sub-3000lb car. A 2400 lb car hits the barrier, does not flatten the absorption section, and basically bounces off of it. A 6000 lb vehicle run into the same area at the same speed, and they RATE them ALL based on those circumstances. You would actually have to run the 2400lb car into the barrier at about 75-85 mph to mock the forces of a 6000lb truck at 40. Its stupid. Take a 5-star rated civic and run it into a 3 star rated 2003 F-series and then record the results.

That the new F-series can actually OUTSCORE most compacts with more then 3 times the energy now is phenominal. It is a quadruple 5-star vehicle. If the two should meet in real life, that wonderfull econocar owner would be turned into confetti. It also does not measure the effects of a collision REVERSING kinetic energy against the smaller vehicle either. It is actually a SCAM-it DOES help safety, but does cause a MISCONCEPTION to keep the small car alive and well in popularity. They should run the barrier into the car(s) rather then the car into them. The side impact test is fair to all vehicles.

The frontal and offset tests only show how well vehicles perform against bridges.

snakeeyes

GONEn60

Thats a total misperception. The offset is a totally static and virtually worthless test. Having an immovable barrier with a short absorption area does not make sense. The test is completely set up for a sub-3000lb car hitting another sub-3000lb car. A 2400 lb car hits the barrier, does not flatten the absorption section, and basically bounces off of it. A 6000 lb vehicle run into the same area at the same speed, and they RATE them ALL based on those circumstances. You would actually have to run the 2400lb car into the barrier at about 75-85 mph to mock the forces of a 6000lb truck at 40. Its stupid. Take a 5-star rated civic and run it into a 3 star rated 2003 F-series and then record the results.

That the new F-series can actually OUTSCORE most compacts with more then 3 times the energy now is phenominal. It is a quadruple 5-star vehicle. If the two should meet in real life, that wonderfull econocar owner would be turned into confetti. It also does not measure the effects of a collision REVERSING kinetic energy against the smaller vehicle either. It is actually a SCAM-it DOES help safety, but does cause a MISCONCEPTION to keep the small car alive and well in popularity. They should run the barrier into the car(s) rather then the car into them. The side impact test is fair to all vehicles.

The frontal and offset tests only show how well vehicles perform against bridges. [/b][/quote]
My point was.....it doesn't make the F-150 junk. I know those things always have a slant. However not every colision is with another car. There are plenty of immovable objects that become part of an accident(a tree). It wouldn't alter my purchase either. Sure, having more steel around you probably going to help you in most collisions, but if that was the attitude we'd all be driving an M1-A1 Abrams tank. So at least be fair and rate it against similar vehicles.

Kahdir

I thought that "tank" safety is what help spark the SUV craze...

GONEn60

What sparked the SUV thing was people are too obsessed with image and wanted a gas-guzzling, oversized, off-road capable (that won't be used) status symbol, rather than drive a minivan or a wagon. If it was about safety, Volvo would be the parent company.

snakeeyes

<span style='color:#4269E7'> The Govt. wont let you own an M1. Even though under the spirit of the second ammendment you should be able to.</span>

kevinb120

I am being fair, 1999 F-150>Camry in accident even though little stars dont agree.

GONEn60

Right. Full size truck = mid size sedan. Definitely fair.

Wombert

The thing manufacturers today (should) care about (they're beginning to, at least over here) is the protection of the smaller, weaker car in an accident if an SUV or truck is involved...

kevinb120

Ford implemented 'blocker beam' braces in the front bumper, and the low mounted trailer hitch on all new Exped/Explorers, they mate up perfectly with the front end of the Taurus. The independent suspensions allow the vehicles to have bumpers low enough to keep cars from torpedoing under them, but still have better ground clearance then their live-axle competiton.

MustangMan311

As everyone else is saying, 'Only 300?' 300 IS a lot and and heck, maybe I could consider how the car :shock: LOOKS! :shock: Power isn't everything to me.

Kluski

I agree, 300 hp is more than I expected. That only means I will reach the next POTHOLE quicker. Gotta love the roads in Pittsburgh.

order#1

Are you kidding we will be going so fast that we gallop over the potholes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FinlayZJ

I drive a grocery getter (Jeep Grand Cherokee) on BFG Muds and its seen it's share off road abuse. In fact, there are alot of us that beat our soccer mom machines up off road. However, only about 5-8% of all SUV's get used for what they are intended for. Now-a-days, all SUV's have gone to IRS and IFS and are built on a car's "frame" The import companies started it, and now it's everywhere. Ford followed suit by offering both IFS and IRS on a "Sport-Utility" Vehicle. Jeep finally caved in and is offering IFS w/ solid rear axle on the next generation Grand Cherokee (WK) due out this fall. The new LR Disco, called LR3 went from solid front/rear axles to IFS/IRS. It went from most capable, to not capable. However, in a crash I'll take my armored, gas guzzling SUV over a Civic any day.