2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old 5/27/04, 12:38 PM
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Just a quick comment on Mach 1 weight. According to the order paper I have, the shipping weight is 3317lbs. Many of the magazines have reported 3430lbs, which would include the amount for fluids (gasoline, antifreeze, etc.). Since gas weighs 6lbs/gal, this would account for about 96lbs of the weight above 3317.
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take out the back seat and move the battery there!! now that would help weight distribution ... jackg 90seville 94k
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Originally posted by mkoesel@May. 27th, 2004, 8:16 AM
To people complaining about the weight:

Do you realize that a BMW M3 weighs 3415 lbs, has over 50ft-lbs less torque than the 05 GT, and goes 0-60 in 4.8 sec?
It also costs twice as much as a GT.
Old 5/27/04, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by justgreat@May. 27th, 2004, 1:40 PM
take out the back seat and move the battery there!! now that would help weight distribution ... jackg 90seville 94k
The 05 Stang does have good F/R weight distribution, approx 52/48. Note that the battery is at the back of the engine bay, inside the wheelbase not hanging out way in front of the wheels as on most cars.
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Speculations, speculations and again speculations....Please someone give me a solid proof of a SE coming out not too long after the GT... :worship:
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Originally posted by montreal ponies@May. 27th, 2004, 7:05 PM
Speculations, speculations and again speculations....Please someone give me a solid proof of a SE coming out not too long after the GT... :worship:
The information that a SE version will be out in March 05 came out of the mouth of the Ford manager of exterior and structure for the '05 Mustang. Other people who were at Foxboro will vouch for this.

If you want to call that speculation go ahead. :scratch:

Of course the best laid plans of mice and men are always subject to change, so who knows. The 18" wheels on the GT are a perfect example of this.
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Originally posted by montreal ponies@May. 27th, 2004, 7:05 PM
Speculations, speculations and again speculations....Please someone give me a solid proof of a SE coming out not too long after the GT... :worship:
I guess you never read my thread
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I'm not a racer, but to me this thing has more power than anyone in their right mind needs for driving on the street.

Its a really good thing I am NOT in my right mind :crazy: :crazy: This is awsome guys. you did a GREAT job of collecting info. I cant wait. Hopefully Ill land a better job so I can buy one new.
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Originally posted by dustindu4+May. 27th, 2004, 7:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dustindu4 @ May. 27th, 2004, 7:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-montreal ponies@May. 27th, 2004, 7:05 PM
Speculations, speculations and again speculations....Please someone give me a solid proof of a SE coming out not too long after the GT... :worship:
I guess you never read my thread [/b][/quote]
:scratch:
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Originally posted by montreal ponies+May. 27th, 2004, 8:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (montreal ponies @ May. 27th, 2004, 8:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by dustindu4@May. 27th, 2004, 7:39 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-montreal ponies
@May. 27th, 2004, 7:05 PM
Speculations, speculations and again speculations....Please someone give me a solid proof of a SE coming out not too long after the GT... :worship:

I guess you never read my thread
:scratch: [/b][/quote]
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=2243
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Originally posted by dustindu4+May. 27th, 2004, 8:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dustindu4 @ May. 27th, 2004, 8:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by montreal ponies@May. 27th, 2004, 8:42 PM
Originally posted by dustindu4@May. 27th, 2004, 7:39 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-montreal ponies
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Speculations, speculations and again speculations....Please someone give me a solid proof of a SE coming out not too long after the GT... :worship:

I guess you never read my thread

:scratch:
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=2243 [/b][/quote]
I missed on that one, great read thanks for all the hard work, but as long as i don't hear or see it officially from Ford, i'm not gonna be a believer. But hopefully what he said was right, i'll be the first one in line to get whatever SE they build for March. That's been my goal since the beginning, to get a SE. I'm willing to wait till next spring for sure.....
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I honestly don't think they'd want to say too much about an SE until they actually release the original...I mean, they want to sell the first ones on the lot too, right?
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Great Read. Thanks for the info.
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Originally posted by Kotzenjunge+May. 27th, 2004, 6:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kotzenjunge @ May. 27th, 2004, 6:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mkoesel@May. 27th, 2004, 8:16 AM
To people complaining about the weight:

Do you realize that a BMW M3 weighs 3415 lbs, has over 50ft-lbs less torque than the 05 GT, and goes 0-60 in 4.8 sec?
It also costs twice as much as a GT. [/b][/quote]
So what does the cost have to do with the performance, given the specs I listed?
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Plenty. Buy a base GT for $24k and then add as much in mods to make it a total of the cost of an M3 and you've got something that can blow one off the road.

Comparing a luxury sport coupe with a Mustang just doesn't fly.
Old 5/28/04, 09:21 AM
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Kotzen,

I think you are overcomplicating the comparison, people were complaining that the Mustang is a heavy car to the little tin boxes like the evo and sti. All mkoesel wanted to point out is that it is about the same weight as the M3, one of the ultimate sports cars.

I agree that the cars are in two different classes, but it just goes to show that the 'stang is not a big fat cruiser.
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Dammit, this heartburn I've had for the last few days is making me crabby.

(listens to "Slow" and feels better)
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The video for Red Blooded Woman is pretty nice.
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Originally posted by Kotzenjunge@May. 28th, 2004, 10:20 AM
Plenty. Buy a base GT for $24k and then add as much in mods to make it a total of the cost of an M3 and you've got something that can blow one off the road.

Comparing a luxury sport coupe with a Mustang just doesn't fly.
What Galaxie said. I was making the comparison to highlight the merits of the new Mustang GT, not to try to belittle it next to the M3. Sorry I was not more clear.

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weight, weight, weight. Before I complain about the weight, I will ahve to lose the extra 30 lbs. I am carrying around behind my belly button.


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