QUOTE(exc911ence @ May 24, 2005, 8:32 PM)
9 cops out of 10 are ... spoken from personal experience. It's too bad for the 1 in 10 who are actually decent people.

If you have had the occasion to meet 9, 10 or more officers due to traffic and/or other incidents with the exception of car accidents - then there is something more to this story

I, with my own personal experience, have been pulled over for the "discussion" a few times as well.

1983 - Once for 65 in a 55, told me to slow her down
1989 - 121 in a 55, cited me for 84 mph (I would consider that a VERY, VERY, VERY NICE cop) even though I got points and a $321 ticket
2005 (owned my GT 41 hours) - 90+ in a 60. Gave me a warning and told me there is a "time and a place for that, but the I-35 is not it".

I treat the Officers with respect, and they in turn seem to do the same. I am sure I will end up "earning" another ticket someday, but I do respect the Officers of the Law b/c in my opinion they dang well deserve it! Just imagine how many deaths they have seen b/c of speeding, drunk driving etc.

If you're willing to do the crime (knew you were speeding right in front of a cop), then be willing to pay the fines.

My 2 cents.

 

Listen...for the last time...I KNOW WAS GOING ABOVE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 55MPH. What I am saying is that he went overboard to be a total jerkoff to me. If he had to pull me over, fine. Pull me over, tell me I was going a couple of mph over the speed limit and to slow it down, fine. But don't pull me over, look for everything you can find on my car to give me a ticket for just to be an a-hole. I have been pulled over by cops when I actually was speeding, who have got me on RADAR going like 15 mph over the speed limit, and have gotten warnings and the officers were VERY friendly about it. This guy went out of his way to increase my amount of speeding when he has NO PROOF (I have a radar detector which did not go off) he was simply tailing me, and threw the friggin book at me cause his life stinks.

 

Actually they can pace you for your speed and can use that without ever using their radar gun.

 

Pacing doesn't hold up in court. Enough said

 

Not flaming you As my previous post states, I received a warning in my new Stang 41 hours after picking her up. Next time I get pulled over, it is pretty much already a given, that I will get the ticket. And the officer will go over my rig to see if there are any other violations - they will find one as I do not have a front plate on my GT.

You may have gotten the riot act because the officer ran your name / license number. If it showed that you have already had a couple warnings, that could do it. When they give you a warning, it says write on the warning "this warning will not be part of your permanent driving record" - this is true - but it does show up when they run you name / plates.

Good luck

 

Says who? They can follow you ten cars back for miles, unseen, then pull you over for whatever speed they paced you as going and it will hold up in court. Even in Maryland (Baltimore is my home town)

Had a case here that I read in the paper where an individule was ticketed for his tint being too dark and was ordered to remove it. He took the tint shop to court to get a refund because they didn't tell him the tint was too dark for his side windows.

 

Maryland cops are about as bad as they come. This is well-known in Northern VA. They are famous for pulling large groups of cars at one time and also ticketing for barely over the speed limit.
I avoid driving in Maryland as much as possible.

 

Wha?? Get his badge # and report him ? Report him for what, doing his job ?? How is he "abusing" his powers by giving a law-breaker a ticket? Your way of thinking is definately "outside the box".
.....and how is driving like a granny next to him gonna pi$$ him off? Wait, don't bother to answer. Apparently we're on different wave lengths


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Are you a court judge? Here in NY, that WILL hold up in court. Doubt me?,... come here and give it a shot. Police cars have "calibrated" speedometers so i wouldn't try that defense.

 

I think this whole thread is pretty interesting. I have one of the heaviest right feet of any one I know and have had my share of speeding tickets, deserving every one of them. So every time, I just pulled out my check book and took it like a man! Some of the officers were not very pleasant but most were. If I hadn't been speeding I would never have met any of them. Probably should have had more tickets but the locals in the unmarked cars around here will sometimes pull in front of me and tap their lights to let me know to slow down. To those of you that do that, thanks To those of you that don't, please remember, speeding is a disease that we mustang owners have. We can't help it.

 

This is TOO COOL!

Are there any other laws which we should disregard, since they're personally inconvenient?

I want a new 60" HDTV - anyone know if I can walk into a Sears down here in CA and just take it? Maybe even do it in front of a cop? Any cops online want to come with, maybe we can set up an appointment? I'll even find a "piece" to carry (won't use it, though - that'd probably come under the heading of "Breaking the Law For Real", right guys?).

In fact, why don't we dissolve all laws, other than those covering "Breaking the Law For Real", like murder, rape, littering, etc... It'd be great - the law would be so simple, we could then consolidate all states and not have to worry about what's ok in one, but not another. Woohoo! Prison overcrowding - SOLVED! Not enough officers on the street - SOLVED! In fact, I may just run for office on this platform. Thanks for the inspiration!

 

Pacing doesn't hold up in court. Enough said

I think we all know what kind of idiotic statement that was!!!

 

Genius, celticstanger, Genius!!!


"That's my stapler. Don't take my stapler."

 

OK - got tired of reading this on page two - so hopefully not repeating something here.

FREE TIDBIT.

Dark Tint. If they don't have a light-meter with them to measure it, take it to court. You'll win every time, because no ones human eyes are trained to tell the difference between 25% light and 15% light, etc. In Florida, there is some variance allowed since all tint cannot be perfectly made and something that may be advertised at 25% may actually be 22%, so even if they do measure it (1 in 100), it doesn't have to be right on.

He got you for tint due to your attitude. Just based on your initial post, I'd bet money that you were sarcastic towards him, which only opens you up to getting looked at even harder. Good thing he didn't spot any open, empty beer cans in the back!!!!

99.9% of cops could care less about your tint and won't even mention it if you have the windows down when they get to them as mentioned before.

 

Oh yeah - just because your radar detector didn't go off doesn't mean ANYTHING.

Pacing DOES hold up in SOME states, I don't have the list in front of me. Cops do have speedo's calibrated from time to time in those states, just like the radar guns are required to be calibrated and certified at least annually. I doubt many of us have our personal speedo's calibrated or our radar detectors calibrated and certified.

 

ROTHFLMAO..........uh, are you 9? Demanding his badge number wouldn't bother him at all. It certainly wouldn't have made him decide to be lenient!!! Someone else already mentioned the driving like a granny remark. My Grandmother got a ticket for 88 in a 55, so yet another generalization!!! :nono:

 

You weren't driving safely, if you were speeding.


I would like to include my two pennies here...


My dad was a cop for 20 years...most of which in traffic, as a motor cop. Here in CA, these are the most feared and hated cops; because all they do is write people tickets. And most of the time...motorcops hide with their bikes arround signs, bushes, walls, etc. to try and catch people breaking the law.

I have been pulled over about 12 times, and received 6 tickets. 3 of them I got off because my dad was a cop, and the officer knew I was a cope's kid...and gave me a break. I have appreciated every one of these moments.

Of my 6 tickets...I have received 2 that were completely BS, BUT still deserved as I WAS IN FACT breaking the law. One ticket was for not using my turn signal when changing lanes and the other for doing 80mph in the slow lane...while people were passing me.

I find it funny that some of you say that cops should be enforcing REAL crimes...like robberies and rapes. If that's the case, why don't we just get rid of traffic laws all together. In fact, let's take it a step farther. Let's abolish all laws that do not harm someone else. Do you see how asinine this train of logic is?

I have come accross very nice cops (even the ones who wrote me) and mean ones (even the ones who let me go). The fact still remains-

What would you do in their position? It is their job to enforce the law...whether they are just or not. Yes, pulling someone over for 5mph is retarded on the surface. But ask yourself this.


What would have happened...if by some freak chance....the officer saw you speeding, but decided not to pull you over...basically he looked the other way. (yes, 5mph over is speeding). Now, your tire blows out (that does happen!). And when your tire blows, you lose control of your vehicle and kill an innocent bystander. Now, that cop let you break the law...and as a result, a life was lost. And he is responsible.

Yes, this might be far fetched....but when dealing with a human life...nothing should be too far fetched.

Laws are there to protect people. There is a speed LIMIT...which means the maximum speed you should drive if conditions permit. You are lucky that cop didn't really slam you, because all he has to do is say that traffic and/or weather conditions didn't permit you driving 55, let alone 60.

My dad came home from work every day...for 20 years...knowing that he helped save lifes, but also knowing that people hate him...and some want to kill him. There are politicians and acitivists who speak out against "wide spread police brutality". there are music artists like Ice Cube who write songs with lyrics like "f^%$ the police, kill the mother f*&^%(*& pigs". Yet, every day...my dad would start his day at 5am to protect and serve. Even while people tell him he is doing is job wrong.

I bet police officers don't come in to your work drizztbob, and get mad at you when you always ask them "do you want fries with that?". They don't tell you how to do your job...so why do you say how they should do theirs?

Yes, there are mean cops who have attitudes. Wouldn't you have an attitude if everywhere you looked and listened, you heard people speaking out against you?

So to the cops that are nice...I applaud them. To the ones who are "mean", I thank them for doing there job and give them the benefit of the doubt; and show them respect...because they have a tough job. This cop did nothing wrong. You have illegal tint and you sped, right in front of him. Talk about poking a lion with a stick.

ok..end of rant.

 

Good rant. We need more rants around here to spice things up.

 

I can't believe how long this thread has gotten over Bob breaking the law. :cry: Get over it already.

I wish there was this much response to technical questions in the performance thread!

 

I have a question to the police officers that frequent this site. I'm not getting into this debate, as most of what I think has been said. He was breaking the law, so if its a black/white situation, yes he deserves a ticket. But also, if the point of traffic laws are for safety, then why do cops break them all the time? Speeding w/out lights on, running stop lights and signs, etc. I know not all cops do this, but isn't that just as dangerous as me doing it? No lights or sirens don't bring attention to the car, so the dangers of speeding apply. And, if I can't run a stop light, even if no oncomming traffic is around, why can cops? Its just a double standard that ticks me off when I see it.

I do thank cops for the job they do, and some of the stuff they have to enforce, I'm sure they don't like it that much either. They can't all be out busing drug dealers, so I guess they have to do something to justify their existance, like enforce traffic laws. Anyway, I would really like for an officer of the law to address my question above.

Thx in advance.

 

Well, a lot of departments have rules that apply to when you can run lights and siren. It usually has to be a real emergency. For example, an accident with injuries or an officer needing assistance. The are a lot of different types of calls that do require a speedy arrival, i.e. domestic violence situations or something like that, but do not qualify for emergency. As for going through lights without lights or siren, they should have them on if they go through a light to warn everyone and let them know they are there. Most of the time when you see a cop speeding they are actually responding to a call, not just speeding for the heck of it. Hope this helps!