ruhn4beer

Dropped off my 05 Mustang today at the dealer for repairs. I have 1,100 miles on it now. I told them that the loud whin howling noise I have on deceleration between 40-55 is not normal, and that it's a rear end in need of repair. Said that they will check it and that the backlash may need adjustment of the pinion gear.

I also noticed that the lower crank and pulley on the motor is completly rusted and was never painted. I have never seen a new car with unpainted rusty pulley. Anyone else have this problem?

Radman

Good point, and I will be sure to listen for any noises as described when I test drive mine.

Jason

jimw49

I've had my GT since Wednesday 11/10 and notice a few bad things so far. I could not put gas in it unless I turned the nozzle upside down, the nozzle would just keep shutting off unless I did that. I also notice a slight howling on deceleration. Probably the thing that bugs me the most though, is the brake dust that keeps accumulating on the wheels and the body, especially behind the rear wheels. The emergency brake doesn't seem to be sticking, so not sure what the problem is, but it sure is a pain trying to keep the car clean.

tom_vilsack

Gee all these problems are making me a bit nervous about ordering mine this spring.I know they say to never buy a car the first year of its new production,but i really didnt think we would see this many complaints this early.I think i will get in writing ,that i get to test drive car apon arrival and that if it doesnt meet my approval then the deal is voided.

As for all you guys with problems,i would have car back at dealership in a heart beat! Demand that head mechanic comes for test drive with you,and point out the problems your having.Leaving little sounds etc might not be a good idea,you never know if those sounds are the start of a much bigger problem.

grrr428

There will be problems, no matter what the make or model....Mercedes and Lexus have warranties after all! Just because someone (or two) has a problem doesn't make it wide spread.

GMAYS

All:

I'm sorry to hear some of you are having some issues with your new babies. But...it is the first few months of production on a totally new car so I would think issues like these are not wholly unexpected and it is inevitable that some issues will escape the QC process with this many cars.

One service though I think we could all do is after most people get through their first 2500-5000 miles we compile a list of the issues that have occurred more than once with different board members and then perhaps Brad can put together a note to Hau Thai Tang and fill him in politely but accurately on the issues that we've seen out here in the real world. I have to think that if we do this the right way we'll get these issues recognized at the top and fixed all the faster for the subsequent cars.

Just my 2 cents...

In the mean time...keep wringing those bugs out for those of us who are holding on for a few months...like me...

Robert

Jeezis!! This is bad news, boys. It strikes me as hypocritical to listen to so many people here rip on imports, most of which rarely, if ever, suffer from the sorts of problems reported in this thread. When I tell my buddy I'm planning on buying a new Mustang, he just looks at me, shakes his head and says, "Are you serious?!" This is why.

"We keep thinking about quality, because we want you to drive a Ford."

Yeah, right.

Indystang

Just an observation here guys but I usually forget to disengage the traction control when I drive around town. I am getting better about remembering but also It seems like the brake dust is bad on mine too. Could leaving the traction control on in city driving cause more brake dust? also I noticed the average mpg seems to get better when I turn it off. I don't really know how this works, but just something I have noticed in the last week. My last GT was an 89 so I have been out of the loop on these cars for a while.

TomServo92

I could be wrong but I don't think the '05 traction control uses the brakes. It feathers the throttle if slippage is detected so I don't think it would have any affect on brake dust. However it might have some affect on MPG as you indicated since it's working the throttle.

lodom

Brake dust was a big problem on my '99, but a normal one. It will show up worse on the optional wheels, especially in the front. I wouldn't be concerned about it.

foxhtn

When I bought my new 01 Ranger, I had brake problems galore! Took the truck back to dealer several times. Could'nt seem to get truck stopped. After SEVERAL Trips back, the Dealer finally decided to change brand of shoes Guess what? No more problems. That was 1 year ago. They were using an inferior shoe.

If there are that many problems with the 05; the car should be taken back to the Dealer where you bought it. Not Ford! Its called Warranty, and your dealer will fix it. If your not satisified, take it back again, until it's fixed properly.

Radman

Ummm, go visit some of the import boards. In my search for a new car I considered the G35 coupe, 350Z, S40, Acura TL, Audi A4, BMW 330 coupe, Boxster (used), Magnum, and 95-00 911 among others. I joined many forums during this time. Every forum had a wealth of people that suffered from all kinds of problems. Read the 350Z, G35 and Acura TL boards and tell me they don't suffer from wide-ranging quality issues on first year models :nono: . From what I've read, the 350Z is still suffering from tire feathering problems on 05's! Yes, imports suffer from the same first year woes that domestics due. Even Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti, and Lexus.

Jason

joeuser42

Brake dust? Gas nozzle?

conv_stang

whenever i change my pad. i always dro a couple pieces of ductape on the backside of the pads to make them fit alittle more snug against the caliper. and i have never had a problem with any squealing after that

kevinb120

Yea seriously, who the heck calls Ford to ask about problems? Go to the dealership. The 3650 is a noisy whiney transmission, albiet very strong, and clutch chatter and gear whine in 1st and 2nd is pretty much normal for one.

kevinb120

Ummm, go visit some of the import boards. In my search for a new car I considered the G35 coupe, 350Z, S40, Acura TL, Audi A4, BMW 330 coupe, Boxster (used), Magnum, and 95-00 911 among others. I joined many forums during this time. Every forum had a wealth of people that suffered from all kinds of problems. Read the 350Z, G35 and Acura TL boards and tell me they don't suffer from wide-ranging quality issues on first year models :nono: . From what I've read, the 350Z is still suffering from tire feathering problems on 05's! Yes, imports suffer from the same first year woes that domestics due. Even Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti, and Lexus.

Jason [/b][/quote]
ESPECIALLY the german stuff, even consumer reports are going nuts with the black circles on MB and BMW's. Everyone we trade costs a fortune to get ready for resale, and we're talking very new ones. Most gets fixed on warranty at the native mfg dealers though, but you should see the warranty bills. We just got an 03 M3 that needs nearly $5000 worth of work, half of that is clutch/transmission problems. It was not owned by a hot-rodder. The last Lexus we had required both defective front headlights get replaced for $2600 bucks :shock: . Most Hondas with decent mileage have exhaust, interior hardware and electronics and acessory drive issues of one sort or another.

kevinb120

You need to thank the asbestos sky-is-falling whackos for that one. Most cars, especially luxury and heavy suvs have tons of dust. Sometimes the wheel style contributes to the additional visable dust, mainly with callipers being so close to the spokes now. I usually quickly replace the stock pads with 'green stuff' street pads, they hardly make any dust, but often squeak. Most squeaking has nothing to do with wear, and almost any high performance OEM or aftermarket pad does it. You should try svt-spec pads with 17 spoke wheels sometime, talk about an upkeep nightmare.

imook16

As far as brake noise is concerned, I'd give the car a little more time on the road before taking it back. The car is new after all, and you guys know how long it takes to set in new pads. If there's a problem with actually stopping the car due to the brakes, then by all means take it back to get fixed.

I've also been thinking that the rear axles' center link might be reason why you guys are getting all these gear noise. I mean, it's sitting right there on the differential.

Retro GT

Yea seriously, who the heck calls Ford to ask about problems? Go to the dealership. The 3650 is a noisy whiney transmission, albiet very strong, and clutch chatter and gear whine in 1st and 2nd is pretty much normal for one.[/QUOTE]


Whiney... noisy... chatter... whine... You consider this 'normal'? Are you
high?

Since this is my first Ford product since I bought a 1986 Escort GT, I had just assumed that Ford had learned how to build a 'world-class' car.

If this is normal, then the people who set-up the rear-ends for Ford haven't learned how to build a differential. This goes for the transmission manufacturer. This is supposed to be quality?

As far as comparing the Mustang to import cars, give me a break. I've owned many imports including a 95 M3 which I still drive. I've only had the car to the dealer once when the washer motor stopped working. 10 years old and it still cruises over 90mph all day, no rattles, vibrations, noises... that is quality. Maybe Ford should start by learning the defenition of quality!

Could this be why they say Ford stands for 'Found On Road Dead?

Radman

I have a 00 F150, 104k miles, no rattles, no creaks, no problems. However, this is a first year car, not just a refresh. There will be problems, just like first year BMW's, Mercede's, Acura's, Nissans. Oh yeah, and the car is less than 30k well equipped. I'd like to see how these problems are in a couple months to see if dealerships/Ford are addressing the problem. Nissan avoided the tire feathering issue on 350Z's for nearly a year. Same with Acura and the TL's "memory" problems.

Jason