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Old 8/26/04, 05:22 PM
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It was simple to replace the mufflers in the past. Do we have to now buy mufflers with exhaust tips?? how does that work?? Flowmaster make such mufflers??
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I e-mailed Borla asking about their plans for the 05. I'll keep you posted.

The 05 may just require a muffler swap since the exhaust is already 2.5" mandrel bent. The exhaust will have polished tips.

We'll have to see. A muffler swap would probably take you 10 minutes, 5min of which you'll be searching for tools.
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No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.
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Originally posted by kn7671@August 26, 2004, 7:30 PM
No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.
You're probably right, but I don't think he was talking about an exhaust shop but rather an aftermarket exhaust product.
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Originally posted by kn7671@August 26, 2004, 3:30 PM
No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.
Exactly. And 10 minutes later, your car will be louder, more obnoxious, and probably not even 0.10 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile.

But the stainless will look BLING, and the guys with the baseball caps on sideways will think you are the coolest!

B)
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Originally posted by M1Rifle+August 26, 2004, 5:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (M1Rifle @ August 26, 2004, 5:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kn7671@August 26, 2004, 3:30 PM
No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.
Exactly. And 10 minutes later, your car will be louder, more obnoxious, and probably not even 0.10 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile.

But the stainless will look BLING, and the guys with the baseball caps on sideways will think you are the coolest!

B) [/b][/quote]
lmao.

g1. but maybe .001 seconds faster?

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Originally posted by Dan+August 26, 2004, 5:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dan @ August 26, 2004, 5:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kn7671@August 26, 2004, 7:30 PM
No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.
You're probably right, but I don't think he was talking about an exhaust shop but rather an aftermarket exhaust product. [/b][/quote]
well if welding is involved that's what we have to do. Did anyone think of this?? I sure did'nt until I was staring at a pic today.Flowmaster doesn't ahve exhaust with tips and it would look stupid clamping a bracket since the muffler is exposed. WELDING A MUST it looks like!!! There are 2 new products by flowmaster . check them out on flowmasteres web sit . They are the super 40 muffler and the hushpower muffler. They both have sound bite you can listen to the exhaust. sound #4 on the super 40 is a 1999 cobra Sounds mean. Question for the hushpower mufflers??????? Will they fit??? If they do you won't have that muffler look in the back??? check it out ????
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Originally posted by 2005muzzy+August 26, 2004, 5:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2005muzzy @ August 26, 2004, 5:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Dan@August 26, 2004, 5:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-kn7671
@August 26, 2004, 7:30 PM
No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.

You're probably right, but I don't think he was talking about an exhaust shop but rather an aftermarket exhaust product.
well if welding is involved that's what we have to do. Did anyone think of this?? I sure did'nt until I was staring at a pic today.Flowmaster doesn't ahve exhaust with tips and it would look stupid clamping a bracket since the muffler is exposed. WELDING A MUST it looks like!!! There are 2 new products by flowmaster . check them out on flowmasteres web sit . They are the super 40 muffler and the hushpower muffler. They both have sound bite you can listen to the exhaust. sound #4 on the super 40 is a 1999 cobra Sounds mean. Question for the hushpower mufflers??????? Will they fit??? If they do you won't have that muffler look in the back??? check it out ???? [/b][/quote]
hushpower
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Originally posted by 2005muzzy+August 26, 2004, 5:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2005muzzy @ August 26, 2004, 5:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 2005muzzy@August 26, 2004, 5:44 PM
Originally posted by Dan@August 26, 2004, 5:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-kn7671
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No, you will not have to buy mufflers with tips pre-installed.

The exhaust shop will simply cut the factory muffler off, then use the saw to cut the exhaust tip off the factory muffler, then weld all the stuff with new muffler back in place.

You're probably right, but I don't think he was talking about an exhaust shop but rather an aftermarket exhaust product.

well if welding is involved that's what we have to do. Did anyone think of this?? I sure did'nt until I was staring at a pic today.Flowmaster doesn't ahve exhaust with tips and it would look stupid clamping a bracket since the muffler is exposed. WELDING A MUST it looks like!!! There are 2 new products by flowmaster . check them out on flowmasteres web sit . They are the super 40 muffler and the hushpower muffler. They both have sound bite you can listen to the exhaust. sound #4 on the super 40 is a 1999 cobra Sounds mean. Question for the hushpower mufflers??????? Will they fit??? If they do you won't have that muffler look in the back??? check it out ????
hushpower [/b][/quote]
super 40
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wow. the super40 sounds mean.

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i am pretty sure that the mufflers will have to be made to size.. i.e. made to fit that specific application. They will more than likely have tips pre-fabbed onto them. I expect companies like Flowmaster, Magnaflow, Borla, and Bassani to have products out fairly quick and be nice quality. It will be a bolt on if it has to be a full cat-back or not. I'm sure they will sell a product that doesnt require welding.
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All I can say is if the Mazda 6 (which doesn't have the rabid performance following like the Mustang) has several aftermarket options for mufflers with intergrate tips, I have no doubt the Mustang will as well.
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Originally posted by scothew@August 26, 2004, 8:02 PM
i am pretty sure that the mufflers will have to be made to size.. i.e. made to fit that specific application. They will more than likely have tips pre-fabbed onto them. I expect companies like Flowmaster, Magnaflow, Borla, and Bassani to have products out fairly quick and be nice quality. It will be a bolt on if it has to be a full cat-back or not. I'm sure they will sell a product that doesnt require welding.
I believe the 05 mufflers are attached with clamps so removal and installation will be easy.

However, I'm not sure a cat-back is required. Wonder what these companies will do?
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Originally posted by ZERO@August 26, 2004, 5:51 PM
wow. the super40 sounds mean.

welding would be needefor the tips!!!!
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Im sure they come with tips. Bassani should make a very nice high-pollished set of mufflers and pipes. :worship:
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Originally posted by kevinb120@August 26, 2004, 9:12 PM
Im sure they come with tips. Bassani should make a very nice high-pollished set of mufflers and pipes. :worship:
i'm e-mailing flowmaster now get back to you guys with the info
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thats cool to make the mufflers less noticable.
Man they sound awesome too!
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Originally posted by ManEHawke@August 26, 2004, 9:36 PM

thats cool to make the mufflers less noticable.
Man they sound awesome too!
Flowmaster has no e-mail adress ,so I will call them tomorrow and see whats going on.I will ask if they plan on makin a muff w/ tips. The hushpower muffs might be the answer for those who want to hide the muffs a little more. I hope they are not too long.The super 40 muffs are louder and might breath more than the hushpower. The hush powers sound awsome but I wonder If the hush in hushpower means they are not as loud as the other flowmasters. I got my eye on both!!! For those who want to hear both muffs ,go to the flowmaster site and give your opinion!!
thanks Tony
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I looked through some old pics and Dan is right. The mufflers are clamped so that you can replace them easily. This has to be a nod to the aftermarket, which is good for us
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Originally posted by bryman@August 26, 2004, 10:35 PM
I looked through some old pics and Dan is right. The mufflers are clamped so that you can replace them easily. This has to be a nod to the aftermarket, which is good for us
By the looks of it, none of the flowmasters will fit. It looks like we have to wait until these companies make a specific muff for the muzzy. the muff holes are totaly offset from one another and the offset has to be the exact measurment to stick out the back of the car.


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