fordstang02

Me and a buddy of mine were talking the other day and the subject made its way around to Mustangs(imagine that). He made a comment about there being a 1964.5 Mustang Fastback. I told him that no 1964.5 fastback Mustang was made. He says that there were a few and that you could tell them apart from the 1965 because they had 2+2 under the 260 or 289 Engine badge. Please help me prove him wrong so i can rub my knowledge in his face(or deny ever writing this)
Thanks in advance for any help.

southern_stang_girlee

This may help...


Heres one

Parts for one...

southern_stang_girlee

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EPA Fuel Economy:
City: 17 – 20 Highway: 24 – 29
Available Engines:
190-hp, 3.8-liter V-6
260-hp, 4.6-liter V-8

Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic w/OD
5-speed manual w/OD

Coupe

Huh? I missed the 64.5 fastback. I must need more research

Big D

thats wierd i missed it too although from that angle it looks like a coupe

63galaxie

yes...and those stats look awfully close to a 99-04 mustang

this guy has probably seen a prototype photo of one, there were a few prototypes, but no 64.5 fastbacks were sold to the public, there is an interesting site with a lot of strange mustnags and if i find it ill post it...
good luck on the bet, hope your friend aint got a trick up his sleeve

southern_stang_girlee

Just do a search for 64.5 Mustang... I did that and there was plenty links that popped up...

Livewire

yes but it needs to be a fastback

southern_stang_girlee

1964-1/2 MUSTANG Mystique History

The official production of the first mustangs started at Monday, the 9th of March, 1964 at Dearborn. This is roll off date of job "one" which indicates that the real starting was some days earlier, because it took an average of 27,5 hours to build one car. Normaly it should be easy to dertermine the build date if you start checking the VIN of a car, but in this case it's not so easy. Ford decided that the early mustang will get the "65" status from beginng and so every serial number started with 5Fxxxxxx instead of 4Fxxxxxx. This caused a 18th month production time for the 65 mustang! Also the official transition date from 64 to 65 known as the 31st of July there are a lot of hints that the production change feld behind that date. The start of the second production of a 65 mustang was the 17th of August. Before that date a total of 121538 early-mustangs had been build. Regardless what the official view of ford about the model year of this cars, there are reasons enough to differ.So if you are interested to determine surely if a mustang is a 64 1/2 there are some rules which don't have exeptions: - there doesn't exist a 64 1/2 fastback - there doesn't exist a 64 1/2 luxury or GT option - every D,F,U-engine coded early mustang is a 64 1/2 - every 64 1/2 must have an generator - every 64 1/2 must be build in dearborn (march to august) or san jose (13 th of july to august) Also this should be enough to answer the first round of questions. What's about the other over 100 difference between this production years? Also there should be someone who had already listed up the differences, I didn't found him and decided to build up a list by my own. In a first step I set up my 64 1/2 parts page , where you can see some specials. What you see here is my first shot for a complete list and I hope that there are a lot of early-mustang friends out there who will help me to finish it some day ...


Interior
Vent **** Driver’s side has white “A” on it
Horn Ring with only one contact button (65/2)
Horn Ring contact plate fits to 64 horn ring
Horn brush completes special horn equipment
Trunk Mats Convertibles normally had rubber plaid
Caps on the door jambs were not painted bodycolor on some early cars
Pedal Pads clutch, brake and gas pedal pads do not have indentation around edge for stainless trim
Shifter Bezel 64.5 auto shifter bezel dial and console shifter dial do not have red arrows
Console auto console bezel does not have raised pointers for the shift position
Shift boot plate special for Man. Transmission w/o console option
Shift lever special for 4 spd
Shifter T-handle smaller one on 64
Door handles clip-on type instead of screw-on
Door handle plate special plastic disk
Door cranks clip-on type instead of screw-on
Steering wheel can identified by the hole for the contact spring
Contact plates for door light switches on inside door edge
Lock **** different and painted interior color
Lock **** grommets black plastic instead of clear plastic /FONT>
Instrument cluster with warning light “GEN”
Headliner rods one end is removable on rear two rods
Seats Black with cloth in the middle unique in 64
Carpet No toe pad and cut + serged edges on coupe
Seat Belts front chrome buckles in alligator-skin style with eye bolt ends
Seat Belts rear Not available; no holes or anchors
Owners manual different cover and different content
Passenger seat not adjustable until 5/08/64


Body & Wheels
Radiator Support air vent openings, no holes for mounting horns, voltage regulator holes
Spare Wheel Mounting Bolt One straight bolt mounts in special bracket in trunk
Wheels 13" 4 lugs only on 170 CID available
Wheel cover 13" only on 170 CID available
Wired wheel cover with ford crest symbol
Styled Steel wheels argent wheel with silver accents instead of charcoal
Trunk mat burtex splatter
Brake master cylinder two types differ on powerbrake
Brake master cyl. cap jar cap stamped with "fill in heavy duty fluid only"
Brake light switch mounts in special master cylinder
Lines fuel and brake line clamps are screwed to floor, not clipped
Hood angled edges not completely folded over
Head light buckets have beveled edges to match hood lip
Headlights early 64.5 headlights have raised FoMoCo script
Rear quarter extension does not have the channel for the rubber seal
Hood bumpers have a recessed phillips head screw instead of solid rubber
Hood underside of the hood does not have drill holes between vent openings folded over and headlight assemblies are beveled
Hood Hinges black not natural metal look
Engine Compartment bracket between inner fender apron and cowl cover have extra vertical tab
Front Shock Towers no drain in frame rail under shock tower



Engine & Transmission
Engines V8 - 260 & 289 cubic inch (5 bolt); 6 cylinder - 170 cubic inch
Transmission are close bellhousing pattern - no ears; smaller input bearing cover
Timing cover V8 include oil filler tube and dipstick tube
Waterpump Aluminium and fit's only on early cover
Valve cover V8 No oil filler cap
Valve cover PCV small opening for PCV valve on passenger side and different valve
Valve cover PCV hose hose without turndown to valve and used of brass elbow instead
Oil Pan differnet location of oil drain hole
Dual exhaust with transverse muffler (before 8/15/64)
Mufflers Dual exhaust system mufflers were parallel but no resonators; pipes are turned down
Pipe hangers Rear tail pipe hangers for dual exhaust are not through the frame
Bellhousing V8 5 mounting bolt holes; not interchangeable with 65
Brake hose brackets Front have a hexagonal cut-out instead of star washer cut-out
Kick down linkage rod linkage for all automatic

Differential special U-Joint with all 170 CID
Radiator hose moulded hose with all 260/289 CID
Transmission unique mount insulators with all 260/170 CID
Air cleaner filter unique with all 260 CID
PCV valve 64.5 uses a brass 90 degree elbow instead of a contoured hos
Spark plugs BF42 plugs on 260 and 289, BF32 on hi-po
Crank pulley tripple sheave slotted cast iron with all 260 CID
Waterpump pulley two sheave slotted cast iron with all gen engines
Front drive shaft (HIPO/4spd) before 10/05/64 28 splines
Air conditioner compressor different bracket
Air conditioner idler special pulley and bracket assembly
No convertible reinforcement from fender apron to firewall
Gas tank fill tube had 5 slotted holes
Gas fill tube hose special clamps without screws


Electric
Taillight buckets wires to bucket are sealed instead of later snap on boots
Convertible top top sides cables with studs and no springs
Fuse box All unique (longer)
Turn signal switch differnt switch assembly on 64
Voltage regulator Autolite Black or FoMoCo
Generator for all 64 1/2 two type for 170 CID and 260/289 CID
Generator heat shield for all 64 1/2 without air cond.
Generator insulator for all 64 1/2 with heat shield
Generator rubber boot for all 64 1/2 mounts over generator
Windshield washer pump only one level
Heater box no mounting for resistor circuitry
Heater blower fan two speed with circuitry inside motor; ground cable
Heater control switch two speed with off in center position
Horn Relay All with gen; mounts on radiator support
Power steering with early eaton pump only with special adaptor


Exterior
Badges “Mustang” emblem on fender is 4-1/2” long
Gas cap without retaining cable
Horse and Corral Different retaining screw location
Wiper arm winshield wiper has smooth cap instead of flanged
Wiper post winshield wiper post has a chromed nut extension
Door Outside door felts backing is black not chrome
Door striker plate attached for door light switch
Distributor has a small oil filler cap
Distributor Rotor unique with all 170 CID
Distributor condenser unique with all 170 CID
Distributor vacuum line unique with all 170 CID
Fuel line to carb passes front of distributor with all V8
Oil filter rotunda red without "6000 mile type"
Spark plugs autolite BF32 star powerplugs
Wires the wirering is completly different; to much to list
Yellow Coil unique mounting point beside carb on manifold
Starter Solenoid brown body instead of black one
Headlight switch special before 8/17/64
Parking light backing cups have no cut-out
Pedal Clutch and brake pedal secured with “E” clips

BLAKE

To answer your question directly, no there were no "regular production" 64 1/2 Mustang Fastbacks.

I have heard of one of a few preproduction fastbacks that made it to market just before the regular production 65 fastbacks. I haven't seen it in person, so take this with a grain of salt. As far as I know, they did not have 2+2 under the fender "V" emblem. It's supposedly just a regular fastback all of the early 65 tell-tale identifiers. (beveled hood lip, different heater box door, ect.)

What's with the latemodel stats? :scratch:

Big D

ok its settled no 64.5 fastback lol hope you collect the cash Chris :P