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Old May 4, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Petunia
Pretty sure I heard you purr ... More like hiss in this thread. :P
I love your "Dillema/Solution", can we see new shoes?

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Old May 4, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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I love your "Dillema/Solution", can we see new shoes?
lol. Wow
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Old May 4, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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All American, Hackensack Nj
That's where I got mine :-o lol
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Old May 5, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gtstyles2
That's where I got mine :-o lol
hopefully you got a better deal than i did! who was your sales guy, if u don't mind me asking?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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TyRaps holding front plate bracket/frame

Originally Posted by Petunia
strange, my dealer just gave me mine and installed it.
Well, after agonizing and searching for a loooong time I went with the simplest and I THINK nicest looking way to install my plates with the TyRaps securing the factory bracket/frame to the lower grill. It's completely secure, you show off you entire bumper and you have a backing and frame around your license plate instead of the plate just dangling in the air with it's rough not finished edges. I think mine looks great and it sits low on the lower grill area, but not too low with fully exposed chin spoiler. Never worry about hitting a speed bump or parking curb with you under the car plate bracket, it doesn't vibrate or come loose like the Craig does. You see nothing at all but the bracket/frame with plate tight to the car. No hardware at all. You can remove it anytime you need to and just use a TyRap or two to re-install it. I went with two large heavy duty Ty-Raps just in case. Takes all of 5 minutes. Better than on the bumper for sure. AND it costs nothing to install. I found the idea on the internet. Good for the Boss and Shelby to.

OH, and the Factory OEM front license plate bracket comes with every new mustang no charge (It's on your MSRP window sticker) with the factory mats in the trunk upon delivery. I don't know what this other forum post was about that the dealer said his car doesn't come with a bracket.


By the way, I had some damage to my front bumper and had to get it repainted and blended, etc, (Hit a piece of a truck tire on the highway) so I had the auto body cover, paint and blend the factory license plate dimples/holes for me. The bumper looks awesome now and with no plate on it and I could drive without worrying about some dbag local deputy or whatever stopping me to break my horns. I think the plate looks sharp where it is.
Well except that police car that followed me and gave me a toot of the siren just to pull next to me and say he has been admiring my GT and wanted to know more about the 13's etc. So he pulled over and we chatted. I have a friend in authority now in my town.
Sorry! Long Story Have a great day and Good Luck and congrats on all you Stangs new and old. My 1st and I am just loving it....

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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do you have any pics Greg3?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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The dealership had already drilled the holes before I got mine, so I pulledthe bracket and plate off when I got home. I ordered the 2 painted plugs that fill in the holes, but you have to drillsss1 a 1/2" hole to mount them. The existing holes are maybe 1/4" so I just left it alone. I haven't been stopped yet, but I know most of the local officers and State Troopers anyway ( I'm a reserve police officer here in my hometown) so that helps a bit
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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I have encounted humongous speed bumps especially in the Malls. What do you do make a U-Turn. Not even making a joke about it, because my other car has scraped the bottom bumper a few times when I wasn't paying close attention to going extra sloooooow. Seriously! I guess you would have to turn around. I don't even want to think about the damage it could do the the front splitter or facia etc, not to mention destroy the plate bracket if you encounted a large speed bump or parking lot curb. That's why I never even considered getting the flip up plate bracket, even though that remote control one sounds real cool and solves the front plate mount situation.
Good Luck and enjoy and be well !

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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I was told by my a dealer and a few others that there is currently a loophole in Texas regarding the front plate law. They were in the process of rewriting the law when the legislative session ended. They left off the language describing the level of offense and penalty for it.
So it is still technically "illegal" to drive with no front plate, but no one can say whether it is a class C misdemeanor or what the penalty is.
I've already been pulled over for no front plate once. One cop ran my license while the other talked to me about the Boss the whole time. Pretty sure they just wanted to check out the car.
They gave me a warning.
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bolson1982
There is at least one option coming for the 2013

Not my car and my product but it looks to be an ideal "no drilling required" solution.
Hey There,

Who makes this? Where can someone buy it?

Thanks!
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowman
I was told by my a dealer and a few others that there is currently a loophole in Texas regarding the front plate law. They were in the process of rewriting the law when the legislative session ended. They left off the language describing the level of offense and penalty for it.
So it is still technically "illegal" to drive with no front plate, but no one can say whether it is a class C misdemeanor or what the penalty is.
I've already been pulled over for no front plate once. One cop ran my license while the other talked to me about the Boss the whole time. Pretty sure they just wanted to check out the car.
They gave me a warning.
I haven't heard of anything being re-written or any loopholes especially during the new laws/legal update class I took at the beginning of the latest session. It's still a class C with a penalty up to $500, though usually you'll get a warning. No front LP is generally a reason to stop someone and make a contact...same as no rear LP light etc.
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Does law enforcement in Texas really give a dang about front license plates??
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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It depends on the officer. My mother-in-law just got pulled over a week ago for it by DPS, and got a warning for the LP, but a ticket for my 6 y/o daughter not being in a booster seat. I've let plenty of them go, but if we're out "fishing" for something bigger, then it's good probable cause to stop them.

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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I've gotten tons of no front license plate tickets. I still won't drill.
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Mental note...

Put on front plate before my next drug deal.

Thanks!
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JosephCook78

I haven't heard of anything being re-written or any loopholes especially during the new laws/legal update class I took at the beginning of the latest session. It's still a class C with a penalty up to $500, though usually you'll get a warning. No front LP is generally a reason to stop someone and make a contact...same as no rear LP light etc.
Due to a mistake on the part of the Texas Legislature, the enforceability of the "no front license plate" statute is now in question. Since 1934, Texas law has required automobiles to have a valid front license plate. This offense was a class "C" misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $200. However, a last minute change in the statute at the end of the most recent legislative session resulted in the punishment section of the statute being inadvertently stricken.

In essence, we now have a crime without a punishment. The bill's author, Rep. Joe Pickett, has asked for an opinion from the Texas Attorney General as to the effect of this omission. Pickett, in what could be described as a thinly-veiled effort to minimize his gaffe, was quoted as saying "It doesn't matter if there's a fine or not, it's still illegal, and you'll still be pulled over." However, the problem with Pickett's analysis lies in the fact that, without a clearly defined punishment range, it is impossible to know what level of offense is alleged to have been committed. Is it a class "C" misdemeanor? If so, then jurisdiction lies in a municipal or a justice court. Is it a class "A" or "B" misdemeanor? In that case, a county criminal court or county court-at-law would be the appropriate venue. A felony, perhaps? Probably not, but the point is that because the legislature is now silent on the issue of punishment, we simply have no way of knowing where jurisdiction lies for this "offense." Hence, a "no front license plate" case filed in ANY court would, at this juncture, be ripe for urging that the court lacks jurisdiction, inasmuch as jurisdiction has not been properly conferred on ANY court. If need be, Governor Perry could hold a special session of the legislature to address the issue.

In other words, you could use it for PC, but if you do decide to cite, it more than likely should be contested and it would possibly be dismissed until corrected by legislature!

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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Funny I went to court for one of those front license plate tickets and won. The judge went on about how the situation reminded him of how he owned a DeLorean as a young man and hated putting a front plate on it. He told me to put the plate on at my leisure! He actually smiled at me and said i was a honest man because i told him i hadnt put it on because i didnt want to drill a 1000 dollar saleen bumper. Lol no joke.

To my surprise, The officer who issued the ticket on that occasion showed up in court.

Anyway, You should have seen his face when the judge told me that.

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Mental note...

Put on front plate before my next drug deal.

Thanks!
That's what I do before I haul a big load of dope
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mburnette
Due to a mistake on the part of the Texas Legislature, the enforceability of the "no front license plate" statute is now in question. Since 1934, Texas law has required automobiles to have a valid front license plate. This offense was a class "C" misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $200. However, a last minute change in the statute at the end of the most recent legislative session resulted in the punishment section of the statute being inadvertently stricken.

In essence, we now have a crime without a punishment. The bill's author, Rep. Joe Pickett, has asked for an opinion from the Texas Attorney General as to the effect of this omission. Pickett, in what could be described as a thinly-veiled effort to minimize his gaffe, was quoted as saying "It doesn't matter if there's a fine or not, it's still illegal, and you'll still be pulled over." However, the problem with Pickett's analysis lies in the fact that, without a clearly defined punishment range, it is impossible to know what level of offense is alleged to have been committed. Is it a class "C" misdemeanor? If so, then jurisdiction lies in a municipal or a justice court. Is it a class "A" or "B" misdemeanor? In that case, a county criminal court or county court-at-law would be the appropriate venue. A felony, perhaps? Probably not, but the point is that because the legislature is now silent on the issue of punishment, we simply have no way of knowing where jurisdiction lies for this "offense." Hence, a "no front license plate" case filed in ANY court would, at this juncture, be ripe for urging that the court lacks jurisdiction, inasmuch as jurisdiction has not been properly conferred on ANY court. If need be, Governor Perry could hold a special session of the legislature to address the issue.

In other words, you could use it for PC, but if you do decide to cite, it more than likely should be contested and it would possibly be dismissed until corrected by legislature!
I don't see how it could really be justified as being either an A or B. We have until Sept. 1 2013 before anything that can be motioned to be changed to go into effect anwyay, and I don't see the Governor going out of his way to hold a special session anytime soon, especially to remove a law that has helped sieze as much illegal substances and money.
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JosephCook78

I don't see how it could really be justified as being either an A or B. We have until Sept. 1 2013 before anything that can be motioned to be changed to go into effect anwyay, and I don't see the Governor going out of his way to hold a special session anytime soon, especially to remove a law that has helped sieze as much illegal substances and money.
You're absolutely correct that it would still be a class C moving violation. It was a stupid mistake this last session and won't be fixed until probably next, but you can still use it for PC and cite a warning only.
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