are you taking the fays2 off and replacing it with whiteline? or have you run fays2 on another car?

 

Yes, pulling the Fays2 to try the Whiteline.

I like the Fays2 a lot, but the Whiteline was more the sort of design I wanted originally (would have probably gone with the Techco Watts several years back, but was running a 7.5" axle at the time, so no dice due to the diff cover. Now have an SVT 8.8" in there.)

Also found out the lower cover plug on the Whiteline is magnetic. Like I said, lots of nice quality touches.

 

I'm considering dropping my Fays2 to try the Whitleline as well.

 

Im trying to decide between the two still. The whiteline is expensive

 

I guess the best thing I can say when comparing the price is it's comparing apples to oranges in what you get. While the Fays2 works, it obviously must leave something to be desired as multiple people in this thread have mentioned replacing it with the Whiteline unit... so do you spend the couple hundred bucks up front, or risk spending the money twice?

 

I've had a Fays2 on my car for 4+ years and have been pretty darn happy with it. It's a proven and effective unit. I think it comes down to personal preferences and needs.

The Fays does add a tiny bit of occasional noise, but less than a panhard bar with rod ends does. There is a bit of maintenance involved if you use your car as anything but a sunshine cruiser, and the rod ends need to be oiled periodically to protect them from corrosion. I'm currently on my third set of rod ends, because to be honest I've been having joint problems, and have been pretty lazy about climbing under the car often enough (~monthly) to keep those rod ends lubed and in good shape.

The Whiteline definitely looks to be a more maintenance free design. That's one of the major things I'm after in exploring the swap. If pure track use was my goal, I think I'd probably just stick with the Fays2.

As it is, I like to consider my car a "performance cruiser". I haul around a highway ramp or a twisty bit of rural road far more often than I find myself on an autocross track. I'm willing to (potentially) trade a little absolute performance (steel rods ends vs synthetic bushings with some compliance) for lower maintenance and a more "factory" type NVH profile.

Youngsequoia: If you're not in a rush, I'd just wait until there are more Whiteline installs (it is fairly new after all) and you can get some direct 1:1 opinions by people that have tried both (As Red_Devil said, there seem to be a number)

 

That's why I'm considering switching as well. As it is with my Fays2 I need to get under the car once every 2-4 weeks to inspect and re-lube. PITA on a DD.

Whiteline appears to be a quieter and lower maintenance alternative.

 

Well that solves it. Im getting the whiteline. It fits with eibach sway bars right?

 

There isn't much more noise with the Fays2 it just sounds like it transmits more drive train and road noise. And having to crawl under the car every couple weeks gets old. Plus the rear sway bar slapping it when the rear end is at full droop.
I pulled my Fays2 off today as I was expecting the Whiteline Watts link to be delivered today. My Whiteline Watts link came in a beat up box with several missing parts. I called AM and was told they'd get more to ship in mid November. Just my luck.

 

Well, that certainly sucks. I commented on the same thing earlier in the thread. Mine showed up with the box split open and half the staples ripped out. I just got lucky that nothing fell out.

Whiteline REALLY needs to address toughening up these boxes to survive shipping.

 

I'm sure that is part of the problem but there had to be something else going on with mine. Here's a picture of exactly how it came out of the box including the open small box with loose hardware and only one deflated bubble bag. No more packaging than you see here.


Maybe a display model?

Do you have yours installed?

 

I don't have mine installed. Maybe this coming weekend.

If that's the way yours arrived, something was SERIOUSLY wrong before it ever shipped out, on mine, NOTHING is pre-assembled and there was the following inside the large white outer box:

Heavy plastic bag containing bubble wrapped long support brace

Brown sealed cardboard box containing diff cover and diff cover support/pivot (individually wrapped)

Brown sealed cardboard box containing the linkage arms (both individually wrapped).

Brown sealed cardboard box containing the propeller, the drivers side mounting brace, and all of the misc hardware (all wrapped/in sealed plastic bags as appropriate).

I think your theory about a demo/display unit just being tossed in a box is the likely truth. I would be raising holy hades with AM, that's totally unacceptable...

 

Raise hell with them. Demand the parts to be sent to you. Then demand a 30% discount for a used model

 

I would be with you on that one.

Mine came very well packaged in a sealed box. Pieces inside were all individually wrapped / boxed and sealed up. I was actually quite impressed with the packaging job.

Looks / sounds like you got something that was previously opened.

 

Hey NJ3!
Yes, wow as mentioned all of our parts come inside heavy duty poly bags with all of the boxes sealed etc. I would double check all of the contents to the contents list on the install manual and let us know if there is anything missing.

Also, for those of you mentioning issues with the main box. Do you happen to have pictures of how the box looked so I can share with our team here? We are always willing to make changes to ensure the product arrives there safely, but need to see some specifics.

 

Yes, whiteline seals all there stuff. Their packaging is quite impressive. I've noticed that any bar comes in heavy duty bags. All the LCA's and Relo brackets or watts links have been packaged really well.

 

Can you do a write up on that UCA you got? Or possibly give a review of it? How it performs and any NVH increases?

 

Why the hell is everyone so concerned with NVH? Any aftermarket or even OEM suspension component can transmit or cause NVH throughout a chassis. Maybe it's because I'm not old but a little noise doesn't bother me so much.

 

Because it all adds up and most people dont have dedicated track cars. If two parts perform exactly the same and one makes a little less NVH, gimme that one.

 

Yea, I can see that I guess. Maybe there's something wrong with me. I've owned rattly squeaky Jeeps and I just "got used to it". Maybe that is rubbing off on my Mustang. If there are any squeaks or noises im sure my brain is programmed to not care unless it's metal on metal.