The company posted is in S. Korea. commie must be 10 years old if he doesn't understand the difference.

 

Hey 13Shelby,
I can tell you care a lot about the ride quality of your car. We do too! This is almost entirely going to be attributed to our bushing technology. Our Synthetic Elastomar compound is not really comparable to the urethane compounds found in the US. You may not be aware, but Whiteline (and our sister company Nolathane) are the #1 replacement bushing company in AUS. We dominate the market both in performance and OE replacement, and a lot of that can be attributed to the fact that our bushings do not fail, do not require maintenance, and they don't squeak or transfer a bunch of NVH like normal bushings.

Why don't we put it in a warranty? Well, the problem there is that installation is a major factor. I catch people using bearing grease all the time instead of our supplied grease and its corrosive to our bushing compound and will make it fail, so we are really careful about spelling it out to our customers in our instructions on how to properly install each product.

If you want some good feedback from outside of our company, you can ask around Team Shelby, one of the former Shelby production line managers used our OLD mustang product (not as cool as the new stuff!) and LOVED it.

 

While the guy making accusations may have been a troll, I would like a response concerning where these parts are made.

Like many on this website, I do consider the source of the aftermarket parts I purchase. "voting" with your dollars is the best way of standing up for your beliefs and ideals.

 

As we are a global company, we have parts made all over the world. We can't currently make the bushings in the US, so those are made in our factory in Korea. All of the metal components in our new Mustang parts are currently made in Southern California.

 

They could be made in Cuba and I could not care any less.

 

heres what i want to know, why is the fays2 so much less expensive than the whiteline? im looking at getting a watts but cant decide

 

Hey YoungSequoia! I think you will find that is sort of an apples and oranges sort of question. Since the design is drastically different (including the engineered differential cover) there are going to be some price differences. I think you will find the Whiteline kit is price competitive when comparing to other diff cover mounted units.

 

ok, but couldn't having the watts link mounted to the diff cause stress to that area of the suspension?

 

Mounting your suspension with muffler clamps [Fays] to axle housing tubes known to move makes me a lot more nervous than mounting the pivot to the cast iron pig with ten bolts.

 

If by stress to the suspension you mean stress the the differential cover, then that is something that has been accounted for. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the differential cover was engineered to handle the load, and our brace design spreads it evenly over 6 points so it is not an extreme load one one point.

 

cool, i was leaning toward the fays2 but i think now that i know that the whiteline is more livable and engineered well like everyone says, ill go with that

 

Alright well the steeda unit also doesn't allow noise to be transfered from their bushings BUT when your driving you hear CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK. Thats what I'm worried about with this watts link.

 

Hi 13Shelby,
That would be sort of an apples and oranges comparison since their watts link is a totally different design from ours. I could not comment one what could possibly make that noise from theirs, however ours has been tested by multiple outside sources including engineers on the major OEM level and approved due to it's ability to maintain ride quality.

 

So yours will not clunk or allow vibrations and noises to get through is that what you are saying? If all this is true then you are sitting on the best watts link in this market. Hard to swallow. Especially from something made in Korea

 

Thanks 13shelby! We think it's the best one as well! As I mentioned earlier, only the bushings are made in Korea. The rest of the kit is designed and made here in Southern California like the rest of our new Mustang parts.

 

I know that the elastomar bushings should make the Whiteline Watts link quieter than mine with steel ball ends but mine doesn't make any noise I can hear. So maybe the design with the pivot on the diff cover helps keep the noise down.

 

That's a great point 908ssp, and many of the other differential mounted watts links use a bearing at the pivot. We use our 93 durometer (motorsports / brass replacement) bushing in the center pivot, which certainly does aid in keeping the noise and NVH down. No one else really has the luxury of being able to employ that design because standard poly would quickly fail there.

 

Nobody with an ounce of intelligence or experience will ever commit to an absolute. Particularly one that is so open ended. So please don't try to put those words in their mouth.

But, in the conditions we have used the Whiteline Watts link, track days, time trials, autocross and street driving, we have found it to be an asset to the suspension and add no noticeable extra NVH than what we already experience from the stiff poly front bushings, the Moton dampers and ultra high performance tires (street) or competition tires we run. It certainly has not added any clunks or banging to the car - something that we have experienced in other parts and have worked hard to keep the red Mustang clunk-free.

I think it's perfectly appropriate for a street car particularly because it does not use rod ends where they would be vulnerable to shock loads and road spray, the two things that shorten the life of spherical bearings.

You seem to have an issue with the Whiteline rep talking about their products. I'll suggest you instead ask end users about their experiences with the Whiteline Watts. That way you can hear from a variety of people how easy (or hard) it is to install and setup, how well it works and how it holds up over time. In my experience it's easy to install and setup, it works as expected and as advertised and it's holding up very well. Our competition car goes on the rack before and after every event and we have no issues with the Watts.

 

what if i go to track days and don't really care about NVH? i kinda want a racecar for the street

 

YoungSequoia, if you want the presense of a racecar, with all the banging and clanging, there are a lot of parts you can use. But I think we've proven our car can hang with just about anything while still remaining comfortable enough to daily drive it. Even in events where we are down on power we've been able to make up for it with suspension. This weekend we beat the NASA TTS record at Eagles Canyon Raceway by two seconds. I believe we even had a new record for a few sessions until a well prepared Mitsubishi EVO edged past us. We've run a similar setup at the Optima Challenge track event on street tires where we were 300hp down from many of the track-only cars and came in very close to the LG in house ZR1 and the Lingenfelter prepared ZL1, both of which ended up suffering from overheating. One of the deficiencies that showed up there was the lack of a Watts link. Since putting it on we've also done the Global Time Attack event and did VERY well compared to the track-only turbo AWD cars that led the event.