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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Whiteline Watts Link

It looks like Whiteline has finally released their watts link. Although I recently installed a BMR adjustable panhard bar and panhard bar brace, I think I'm going to ultimately wind up going with this watts link when I swap out my Koni STR.T's for the 2013 GT500 adjustable Bilsteins I won at Mustang Alley (I've got the 15-inch, six-piston front Brembo brakes, too). I like how the loads and forces are distributed among the (6) cap screws affixing the main brace to the differential cover. There are also provisions for a differential oil cooler, it appears. Whiteline's bushings are also among the best in the business, from what I've gathered, so I may look into their sway bars and lower control arms at some point, too.

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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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that is some serious kit. congrats again on winning that gt500 swag
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Nice setup!

Did you like the STR.T's?
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Nice setup!

Did you like the STR.T's?
Oh, yeah, in my opinion, the STR.T's are a great damper for the money, though I can only really compare them to stock.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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that looks **** good, lots of different watts links options out now
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Looks lighter (as in weight) compared to most I've seen.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Yes the Whiteline kit is looks darn good. None of those trellis steel frames and muffler clamp on brackets like some out there. I probably would have bought this or the Cortex if I hadn't already built my own Watts link. I use their front A arm bushings and really like how the sharpen up the feel of the front end does away with vague rubbery feel that the cars with.

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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Looks like major sway bar clearance issues. I would first verify that before you purchase. In the first picture it looks like the sway bar is attached at the axel?? According to the site their bar does mount at the Axel, not sure how I feel about that. It might be their bar or no bar at all with their watts.

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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
Looks like major sway bar clearance issues. I would first verify that before you purchase. In the first picture it looks like the sway bar is attached at the axel?? According to the site their bar does mount at the Axel, not sure how I feel about that. It might be their bar or no bar at all with their watts.
Whiteline's watts link is designed to work with their rear sway bar; yes, their sway bar attaches directly to the rear axle. Looking at the pictures, if Whiteline's watts clears their rear sway bar, I can't see an Eibach / Ford Racing rear sway bar causing any interference.
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Whiteline's watts link is designed to work with their rear sway bar; yes, their sway bar attaches directly to the rear axle. Looking at the pictures, if Whiteline's watts clears their rear sway bar, I can't see an Eibach / Ford Racing rear sway bar causing any interference.
I'm not to sure, when I installed the Boss diff cover on my car the cleareance between the cover and sway bare was about 2 inches. This cover looks like a deffinite cleareance issue. That's probably why they mounted their bar the way they did.
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
I'm not to sure, when I installed the Boss diff cover on my car the cleareance between the cover and sway bare was about 2 inches. This cover looks like a deffinite cleareance issue. That's probably why they mounted their bar the way they did.
I asked Jared Chavez of Whiteline (formerly of Saleen) whether or not their watts link would interfere with a stock and / or Eibach/FRPP rear sway bar and he told me there would be zero issues.

I know for a fact both stock and Eibach/FRPP rear sway bars clear Cortex Racing's watts link differential cover.

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MARZ

I asked Jared Chavez of Whiteline (formerly of Saleen) whether or not their watts link would interfere with a stock and / or Eibach/FRPP rear sway bar and he told me there would be zero issues.

I know for a fact both stock and Eibach/FRPP rear sway bars clear Cortex Racing's watts link differential cover.
That's good to hear but I would need to see a picture just be sure. Does their cover have a provision for diff cooler as the OP stated. If so and their are no clearance issues this may trump my idea of going Steeda.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
That's good to hear but I would need to see a picture just be sure. Does their cover have a provision for diff cooler as the OP stated. If so and their are no clearance issues this may trump my idea of going Steeda.
I'm the OP and, yes, the Whiteline watts link differential cover features provisions for a cooler.

Directly from Whiteline's Jared Chavez:

On Whiteline's design and construction...

Well to start, Brand A and Brand B's units were not adjustable for your ride height to correct the geometry. The arm lengths were not adjustable (which is like having a non-adjustable panhard). Their designs both relied on a single bolt holding the stress of the pivot in the diff cover which caused snapping failures. Our design does not do that, the load is transferred evenly through 6 bolts holding the main brace to the diff cover.

We just removed a Brand B unit from a car and put on a Whiteline unit, and we found most of the bearings/sphericals to be worn out and failing. With our bushing technology that also wont happen. Since our bushings dont squeak you will maintain an OE ride quality. We also have the extra features of dual diff taps for a differential cooler.


On whether or not the Whiteline watts link will interfere with a stock or Eibach/FRPP rear sway bar...

shouldn't have any issues. [The Whiteline wats link] Works with our bar, which would be the one to have issues with due to its inverted design. But I still recommend switching to our bars either way =p
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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What does a Watts usually run, the Whiteline site didn't have a price up yet for the unit.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon302
What does a Watts usually run, the Whiteline site didn't have a price up yet for the unit.
$899.95 from Stage 3 Motorsports.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
I'm the OP and, yes, the Whiteline watts link differential cover features provisions for a cooler.

Directly from Whiteline's Jared Chavez:

On Whiteline's design and construction...

Well to start, Brand A and Brand B's units were not adjustable for your ride height to correct the geometry. The arm lengths were not adjustable (which is like having a non-adjustable panhard). Their designs both relied on a single bolt holding the stress of the pivot in the diff cover which caused snapping failures. Our design does not do that, the load is transferred evenly through 6 bolts holding the main brace to the diff cover.

We just removed a Brand B unit from a car and put on a Whiteline unit, and we found most of the bearings/sphericals to be worn out and failing. With our bushing technology that also wont happen. Since our bushings dont squeak you will maintain an OE ride quality. We also have the extra features of dual diff taps for a differential cooler.

On whether or not the Whiteline watts link will interfere with a stock or Eibach/FRPP rear sway bar...

shouldn't have any issues. [The Whiteline wats link] Works with our bar, which would be the one to have issues with due to its inverted design. But I still recommend switching to our bars either way =p
Hey, I take everything back about the sway bar cleareance. I was just under the car greasing things up when I realized the bar that I got confused with was the PHB, that is the one clode to the diff cover. Since the Watts replaces it, no issues. Sorry for the confusion. I wonder why they think their sway design is better? I'm no expert so I would like to know. Do you know if this is a straight bolt in desig, no fab needed?
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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Hey guys!
Thought I'd poke my nose in here just so I can answer a few questions for you!

Making an adjustable sway bar for the rear of the Mustang can be really tricky if you want the adjustment to be easy. We wanted our bar to be easily on car adjustable which our design is a clear winner with. Secondly the design allow for more inboard wheel clearance that can be limited by standard sway bar designs. Lastly it splits the weight between sprung and unsprung.

Also sometimes its really cool to be different! And yes, all Whiteline products are direct bolt on, no fabrication required!
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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Nice!
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Red_Devil
Hey guys!
Thought I'd poke my nose in here just so I can answer a few questions for you!

Making an adjustable sway bar for the rear of the Mustang can be really tricky if you want the adjustment to be easy. We wanted our bar to be easily on car adjustable which our design is a clear winner with. Secondly the design allow for more inboard wheel clearance that can be limited by standard sway bar designs. Lastly it splits the weight between sprung and unsprung.

Also sometimes its really cool to be different! And yes, all Whiteline products are direct bolt on, no fabrication required!
Hey, Jared. Thanks for the clarification!
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Red_Devil
Hey guys!
Thought I'd poke my nose in here just so I can answer a few questions for you!

Making an adjustable sway bar for the rear of the Mustang can be really tricky if you want the adjustment to be easy. We wanted our bar to be easily on car adjustable which our design is a clear winner with. Secondly the design allow for more inboard wheel clearance that can be limited by standard sway bar designs. Lastly it splits the weight between sprung and unsprung.

Also sometimes its really cool to be different! And yes, all Whiteline products are direct bolt on, no fabrication required!
Would you mind posting some more details on your watts? Not much on the site or anywhere else.
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