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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Wheel Hop Question

I need to remove 90% of the wheel hop 100% would be nice, but I don't know if that is posable. Anyways my question is what can be installed to help remove wheel hop. Would LCA's do the trick, any help would be much appreciated.

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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wentw1tj
I need to remove 90% of the wheel hop 100% would be nice, but I don't know if that is posable. Anyways my question is what can be installed to help remove wheel hop. Would LCA's do the trick, any help would be much appreciated.

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I installed the Roush wheel hop kit and LCA's. That completely removed all my wheel hop. Forewarning though, the car will be very mechanical feeling and noisy. So just be prepared for that.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797
I installed the Roush wheel hop kit and LCA's. That completely removed all my wheel hop. Forewarning though, the car will be very mechanical feeling and noisy. So just be prepared for that.
the mechanical feeling and the noisy is not big deal to me. I just want the hop gone. Thank you I will look in to them parts. do you by chance have the part numbers.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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The axle side rear upper control arm bushing is another area to focus on as well. I recently watched a video (camera aimed at the upper axle bushing) of an S-197 going down the track and even with LCAs and relocators that bushing caused issues. Its also very failure prone when driven in anger.

There are urethane replacements but the consensus seems to be they subject he rear end to much bind if your using something other than heim type joint and even then its probably better to replace it with a spherical bushing like Steedas. As with any sort of mod expect increased NVH.

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Old May 17, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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truthfully, I have yet to experience wheel hop. I must not be beating my car enough.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
truthfully, I have yet to experience wheel hop. I must not be beating my car enough.
I find that it depends. Sometimes when I really get on it my car with cut off (tc/sc kicking it) and totally bog and therefore no wheelhop. Other times it won't kick in and I will get wheelhop like a mother****er, sounding like my rear wheels are going to end up in my trunk. And lastly I sometimes get a nice chirp and I'm goneeeee
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Old May 17, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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I have hotchkis LCAs, UCA, an PH bar that I got from jay@hypermotive. Great guy to do business with. I don't have any wheel hop. My car just squats and goes!
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Old May 17, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by blairnr67
I have hotchkis LCAs, UCA, an PH bar that I got from jay@hypermotive. Great guy to do business with. I don't have any wheel hop. My car just squats and goes!
Did you get any relo brackets for the lcas? And how was the install. I think my next upgrades are going to be some suspension components.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Yep, it can be an issue with a live rear axle even for the best of us. Watch the scene in 'Bullitt' when McQueen overshoots the right turn, throws it in reverse, and then takes off. Plenty of hop showing.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by joey8

Did you get any relo brackets for the lcas? And how was the install. I think my next upgrades are going to be some suspension components.
No brackets until I lower the car. The install is really pretty easy.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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My auto has never experienced wheel hop. My understanding is that it's a manual issue.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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I got rid of most of mine with a set of Steeda LCA's
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Old May 17, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012GT
My auto has never experienced wheel hop. My understanding is that it's a manual issue.
You must not punch the gas
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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blairnr67
I have hotchkis LCAs, UCA, an PH bar that I got from jay@hypermotive. Great guy to do business with. I don't have any wheel hop. My car just squats and goes!
Is it any noisier?
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Old May 18, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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My '11 Brembo GT hopped horribly when new. Added dual adjustable LCA's from Maximum Motorsports with spherical steel bushings to prevent binding, but the steel bushings transmit a ton of mechanical noise into the cabin and they could not be adjusted enough to get my driveshaft pinion angle into the recommended -1 to -1.5 degree range (could only get it down to -2 degrees). Most of the hop was eliminated, but still had some.

Added the Steeda upper control arm. Dual adjustable with the hard durometer bushings (not steel) and also did their axle side bushing for the control arm. Was able to get the pinion angle into the sweet spot and all the wheel hop is completely gone in 100% of driving, racing, and thrashing scenarios! Very happy with my car now!

I'll probably replace my LCA's with a set with hard durometer bushings instead of steel to quiet down the NVH next.
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Old May 18, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys!

If you need any help or would like one of our sales reps to put a package together for you ... please email me at tim@steeda.com.

Best Regards,

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Old May 19, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Freak

Is it any noisier?
No not really. You will need the UCA bracket because the holes are a different size and will clink if you just add the UCA without the bracket.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blairnr67

You must not punch the gas
12.18 @ 116. Yea, she's slow and still never wheelhop once
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Old May 20, 2013 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 2012GT
12.18 @ 116. Yea, she's slow and still never wheelhop once
12.18? Slow? Back in the day, you were lucky to get into the 13's on street tires and pump gas. I managed it (but just barely at 13.98) at OCIR in a 65 mustang built for road racing, and it was the last time I went down the quarter mile (more curiosity than anything else).

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Old May 20, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by db2797

I installed the Roush wheel hop kit and LCA's. That completely removed all my wheel hop. Forewarning though, the car will be very mechanical feeling and noisy. So just be prepared for that.
I am surprised by this post. I have the roush set up and it is very quiet with almost zero increase in nvh. Zero wheel hop and 770hp.

Now I had BMR previously. That was noisy!
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