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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Somebody talk to me about Coil-Over Systems

Hi all! I'm considering going all in on an Eibach coil-over system, along with various other upgrades(control arms, upper, lower, etc.) Does anybody here have experience with the coil-over systems? Eibach's stuff is generally top shelf, but I'd like to know what your experiences may be.

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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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I guess my first question would be what do you plan to do with the car? Is it just to improve the stance, change the ride quality, track events/autocross? I track my cars a lot (NASA TT and driving instructor for the past 7 years) so I've always gone with a decent set of coilovers because 1: they can be corner-weighted, custom setup per my requirements and 2:their rebuildable. Most if not all coilovers below the $2000 threshold are NOT rebuidable (i.e. throw them away when they go bad) so that right there would turn me off of the Eibach's. If your goal is to just improve the stance of your car and maybe the occasional open track day or autocross, a nice set of struts/shocks + lowering springs will do the job and save you a bunch of money over a set of cheap (in a quality/performance/usability sense) coilovers. Every forum seems to have a suspension guru and Sam Strano seems to be the guy here. Give him a shout at Stranoparts.com. Good luck!
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Speedform, Thanks. I had been considering the Eibach Multi-Pro R2s, and I was under the impression they were rebuildable. Is that incorrect?

As far as my goals, you saidd: "If your goal is to just improve the stance of your car and maybe the occasional open track day or autocross..."

That sums it up initially, but over the longer run, I expect "occasional" to become "frequent" but I want to wear the new off of it first...

You mentioned using coil-over set-ups for your own performance needs. What sort do you use?
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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I can't speak to the R2's as I don't know of anyone who runs them or the quality of their internal components. They sure look nice though. I've run custom setup KW clubsports and Cross/JIC's on previous track cars. For the Mustang I'm in the process of building a set of AST 4100's, which are not quite as hardcore as some of my old setups but should be a nice compromise between track and street driving. There price appears to be inline with the R2's but don't come with external reservoirs. Try giving Vorshlag Motorsports a call for more info. on these units. They ran a set on their 5.0L track car with positive results.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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I have the eibach coilovers, I love em. Got mine so I could adjust my stance to what i wanted. Handles great for street use, ride is a little rougher though. Just my $.02
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Speedform, thanks, I'll take a look. The R2s intrigued me, and everybody I talked to said they're good.

Gary, thanks for the info. You're running Eibachs, which model? I expect some compromise on ride comfort, but what I want is something that will do as described above, but not ride like a jackhammer.

Thanks!

Mark

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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/eibach...over-0510.html

I have no complaints at all. I was acctually amazed how well it handles now.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 12:51 AM
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this is after the coilovers were installed.

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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Being able to rebuild is necessary I suppose for more serious motorsports activities.

But I think there's room in the market for a lot of consumers. The Eibach coil-overs are quality pieces and while they aren't rebuildable, the type of consumer of this product wouldn't necessarily be 'needing' to refill his/her shocks very often.

And I'd be right there with them if I had the cash. :X
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Steeda makes a Coilover Suspension System that is currently being used on several racer's Mustangs.

This kit is made from billet aluminum in our in house manufacturing facility and features anodized parts for long lasting protection against oxidation and roller bearings to make adjustments a snap. Fully adjustable with a wide range of spring rates available.

This an American Made part by an American company. Major Components of Steeda's Adjustable Suspenion System are manufactured under these rigorous manufacturing certifications: ISO/TS16949, QS-9000 & ISO 9001

PM if i can provide you with any answers or pricing!

http://www.steeda.com/store/steeda-s...er-system.html

Best Regards,

TJ
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JPMotorSport
Being able to rebuild is necessary I suppose for more serious motorsports activities.

But I think there's room in the market for a lot of consumers. The Eibach coil-overs are quality pieces and while they aren't rebuildable, the type of consumer of this product wouldn't necessarily be 'needing' to refill his/her shocks very often.

And I'd be right there with them if I had the cash. :X
I talked to Eibach about their products, and they said they build the kits entirely from scratch in california, and can be taken apart. So I asked them if their base coilover kits are rebuildable or not and he repeated what he said. . AM gave me the contact # for Eibach. Id call them to see for yourself, I was a bit confused myself.

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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Garry38555
http://www.americanmuscle.com/eibach...over-0510.html

I have no complaints at all. I was acctually amazed how well it handles now.
nice kit Garry, I was looking at this one also, almost the same price.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by autobred
I talked to Eibach about their products, and they said they build the kits entirely from scratch in california, and can be taken apart. So I asked them if their base coilover kits are rebuildable or not and he repeated what he said. . AM gave me the contact # for Eibach. Id call them to see for yourself, I was a bit confused myself.
'rebuildable' is a pretty big term. High-end Bilstein shocks for example are rebuildable and a number of shops around the country are 'certified' to do a rebuild.

Koni's are rebuildiable too - albeit ONLY by Koni (which involves a more painful process - probably better to be sponsored by them if you intend on going through dampers on high speed tracks).

Eibach's ability to 'take it apart' may be possible - however the OP/purchaser needs to be aware where and which situations rebuilds are typically done and why they are done. Meaning, if being able to rebuild is a concern, why are you considering Eibach R1 or R2 kits?

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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I meant to say repairable not rebuildable. Rebuildable are more or less for what... the seasoned track stars that follows the whole schedule and in a tight points race :-)
Just find it odd when the term non rebuildable gets thrown around that its a throw away, like a one time use product.. wont last 2 months LOL
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by autobred
I meant to say repairable not rebuildable. Rebuildable are more or less for what... the seasoned track stars that follows the whole schedule and in a tight points race :-)
Just find it odd when the term non rebuildable gets thrown around that its a throw away, like a one time use product.. wont last 2 months LOL
Sure I totally agree - it IS a big part of learning about coil overs and I could see how people would be unsure of what's more important. If I had the cash to burn I'd probably just have stepped up to R1's rather than the Koni/Eibach setup I have. But the Koni's certainly do the job well.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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True or False...whether you adjust the height to a 1" drop or 2" drop, the car will ride the same with the coilover system.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Neither. It depends on other things in conjunction with the drop.
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