Panhard Bar advice
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Last edited by m05fastbackGT; 2/11/17 at 04:55 PM.
#42
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Actually it is, especially when the car owner/OP who has the TP package doesn't even know it also includes Brembo brakes
Last edited by m05fastbackGT; 2/11/17 at 05:48 PM.
#43
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i have a 12 gt brembo 6mt with koni orange, gt500 mounts with a roush uca (non adj) and am going with steeda sports soon,1" drop in front 1.25 in the rear with an adj p/h bar, will i need lca brackets or an adj uca or camber bolts or am i good to go with just an alignment and what i have?
#44
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At just 1" drop with Steeda sport springs, you shouldn't need camber bolts at all.. However you should still have your front alignment checked just to be on the safe side anyhow and if for some reason your alignment isn't within factory specs, all you would need to do is just have your GT500 strut mounts rotated 180* which should be more than enough to correct it..
Other than an adj panhard bar, I really don't think getting an adj uca and lca brackets are necessary at just 1.25 drop in the rear, unless you plan on using your car at the track and concerned about wheel hop.. For mostly street usage, I wouldn't even bother wasting my time and hard earned money IMHO..
Other than an adj panhard bar, I really don't think getting an adj uca and lca brackets are necessary at just 1.25 drop in the rear, unless you plan on using your car at the track and concerned about wheel hop.. For mostly street usage, I wouldn't even bother wasting my time and hard earned money IMHO..
#45
i have a 12 gt brembo 6mt with koni orange, gt500 mounts with a roush uca (non adj) and am going with steeda sports soon,1" drop in front 1.25 in the rear with an adj p/h bar, will i need lca brackets or an adj uca or camber bolts or am i good to go with just an alignment and what i have?
#47
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If you could read you would see I was asking about the shocks and struts that are totally different on the cars according to Ford.
Just wanted to know what they are.
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Perhaps if you had bothered to word your question in an adult and intelligent manner to begin with, I wouldn't had misinterpreted what you posted in the first place.. Therefore if you expect direct answers to your questions, post them in a specific and clarified manner from the very start
Last edited by m05fastbackGT; 3/18/17 at 07:18 PM.
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After several research attempts, I did a search here on TMS and also on google.. The only info I was able to find out about the struts/shocks for the 2013-14 Brembo brake/track pack is.. The spring rates are tuned differently for the Brembo package.. However I was unable to find any specific info as to which brand struts/shocks and valving specs were used.. According to Brembo50.com they quote " the Brembo Suspension System has not been compromised due to the fact that the OEM Spring Rates are still retained and continue to be tuned to the OEM struts and shocks".. Therefore if what Brembo claims is accurate, Ford is still using the OEM dampers on the Brembo package and from my understanding, Ford's OEM struts/shocks are manufactured by Tokico..
As for the Boss shocks: We know nothing about them, but I assume they are probably Tokico's and I'm on record as stating that prefer the Koni's over D-specs having had them both. More than any other group the Ford guys seem to be married to "Ford" parts (even when they aren't really Ford parts). Hell most every part in the FR3 kit, actually every part, isn't actually a Ford part. The springs and bars are rebranded Eibach's. The dampers are Tokico housings and Multimatic did the valving specs--but I'm betting didn't build the shocks though I can't prove that. And you know, the thing I hated most about the Shelby was those FR3 dampers. We improved the ride and handling both dumping those (which is the first thing we did).
At any rate, I've provided some links that may provide helpful.. Look especially at the Brembo50.com site and select the 55D springs link in which I took their quote from..
http://www.brembo50.com/55d-springs.html
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ension-522575/
http://www.brembo50.com/
http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f358/t339509/
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...matter-486829/
As for the Boss shocks: We know nothing about them, but I assume they are probably Tokico's and I'm on record as stating that prefer the Koni's over D-specs having had them both. More than any other group the Ford guys seem to be married to "Ford" parts (even when they aren't really Ford parts). Hell most every part in the FR3 kit, actually every part, isn't actually a Ford part. The springs and bars are rebranded Eibach's. The dampers are Tokico housings and Multimatic did the valving specs--but I'm betting didn't build the shocks though I can't prove that. And you know, the thing I hated most about the Shelby was those FR3 dampers. We improved the ride and handling both dumping those (which is the first thing we did).
At any rate, I've provided some links that may provide helpful.. Look especially at the Brembo50.com site and select the 55D springs link in which I took their quote from..
http://www.brembo50.com/55d-springs.html
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ension-522575/
http://www.brembo50.com/
http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f358/t339509/
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...matter-486829/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby...d_Shelby_GT500
Last edited by m05fastbackGT; 3/19/17 at 05:44 PM.
#52
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After several research attempts, I did a search here on TMS and also on google.. The only info I was able to find out about the struts/shocks for the 2013-14 Brembo brake/track pack is.. The spring rates are tuned differently for the Brembo package.. However I was unable to find any specific info as to which brand struts/shocks and valving specs were used.. According to Brembo50.com they quote " the Brembo Suspension System has not been compromised due to the fact that the OEM Spring Rates are still retained and continue to be tuned to the OEM struts and shocks".. Therefore if what Brembo claims is accurate, Ford is still using the OEM dampers on the Brembo package and from my understanding, Ford's OEM struts/shocks are manufactured by Tokico..
At any rate, I've provided some links that may provide helpful.. Look especially at the Brembo50.com site and select the 55D springs link in which I took their quote from..
http://www.brembo50.com/55d-springs.html
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ension-522575/
http://www.brembo50.com/
http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f358/t339509/
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...matter-486829/
At any rate, I've provided some links that may provide helpful.. Look especially at the Brembo50.com site and select the 55D springs link in which I took their quote from..
http://www.brembo50.com/55d-springs.html
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ension-522575/
http://www.brembo50.com/
http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f358/t339509/
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...matter-486829/
Thank you for all of the great information. When I try to search on this forum I just cant seen to find anything. LOL
When I looked at OEM Shocks the Brembo, Stock and GT 500 all have different part numbers. Seems the Track car gets a different axle and Shocks and a few other things based on my Ford part numbers.
Just was was wondering.
Thankx again..05Fast
#53
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Does anyone's Panhard bar rub or come close to rubbing on the Track cars diff Cover?
Ford Racing sells theirs with an offset for this and was wondering if I will have other rub if they dont have the offset?
Ford Racing sells theirs with an offset for this and was wondering if I will have other rub if they dont have the offset?
#54
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Thank you for all of the great information. When I try to search on this forum I just cant seen to find anything. LOL
When I looked at OEM Shocks the Brembo, Stock and GT 500 all have different part numbers. Seems the Track car gets a different axle and Shocks and a few other things based on my Ford part numbers.
Just was was wondering.
Thankx again..05Fast
When I looked at OEM Shocks the Brembo, Stock and GT 500 all have different part numbers. Seems the Track car gets a different axle and Shocks and a few other things based on my Ford part numbers.
Just was was wondering.
Thankx again..05Fast
At any rate, I'm just going to assume from the info I provided you with that the struts/shocks in which Ford uses for the Brembo/track packages are also manufactured by Tokico.. As for which Tokico's are used ? your guess is as good as mine on that one.. For all we know, they could be using the very same valving/tuning as the Tokico D-specs which are included as part of the Ford performance parts handling package or they just might also be manufactured for FPP by Eibach.. As we do know that Eibach is also the manufacturer of FPP's P and K springs..
Last edited by m05fastbackGT; 3/21/17 at 11:33 PM.
#55
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I don't know why Ford is so reluctant when it comes to revealing technical specs about who the manufacturer of a particular part happens to be, even when providing the exact part number.. IMO I really don't think it's expecting too much when a customer is seeking to find technical specs from the manufacturer about their own car for god sake, as Ford seems to make it appear as though they're hiding some sort of conspiracy cover up from their customers for whatever stupid purpose they may have up their sleeve lol.
At any rate, I'm just going to assume from the info I provided you with that the struts/shocks in which Ford uses for the Brembo/track packages are also manufactured by Tokico.. As for which Tokico's are used ? your guess is as good as mine on that one.. For all we know, they could be using the very same valving/tuning as the Tokico D-specs which are included as part of the Ford performance parts handling package or they just might also be manufactured for FPP by Eibach.. As we do know that Eibach is also the manufacturer of FPP's P and K springs..
At any rate, I'm just going to assume from the info I provided you with that the struts/shocks in which Ford uses for the Brembo/track packages are also manufactured by Tokico.. As for which Tokico's are used ? your guess is as good as mine on that one.. For all we know, they could be using the very same valving/tuning as the Tokico D-specs which are included as part of the Ford performance parts handling package or they just might also be manufactured for FPP by Eibach.. As we do know that Eibach is also the manufacturer of FPP's P and K springs..
You have a ton of great information.
Took a while to go through. It would be really nice if I could get the information on OEM shocks. My shocks are totally different that my other mustang with out the Track pack.
I really wish QA1 would make full adjustable struts for our Mustang's
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You have a ton of great information.
Took a while to go through. It would be really nice if I could get the information on OEM shocks. My shocks are totally different that my other mustang with out the Track pack.
I really wish QA1 would make full adjustable struts for our Mustang's
Took a while to go through. It would be really nice if I could get the information on OEM shocks. My shocks are totally different that my other mustang with out the Track pack.
I really wish QA1 would make full adjustable struts for our Mustang's
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