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I was thinking about trying these when the PZero were out. They are 2 lbs lighter than the Hankooks and have had great reviews.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ECDW&tab=Specs
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ECDW&tab=Specs
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Watts Link!
I don't disagree with anything you're saying here at all. Heck, that's why I bought a square setup of 275s on 9.5" rims all around before I even got my car. I don't have track time in mid-engine cars, but do have a few thousand laps in front engine Mustangs and Corvettes that do have a bias toward understeer. I fully expected the Boss to be the same and therefore wanted the car to turn in and rotate better.
I do want to make a big disclaimer, I am not a suspension expert! I am just trying to share my experience with the Boss so far and try to help others learn from my "mistakes". I know I'd appreciate the same from any of you guys and that's what I see as the value of these forums. Yesterday down at MAM, we started in rain. The car rotated very quickly
when I found the edge and it was almost always oversteer. It dried out late morning and we had a great day. I ran within .012 of my best lap time ever in the GT500 and my tires were on their last legs. (corded my last session). With TracKey and a little more seat time I'll be running faster no doubt. 80% of the time I found the edge yesterday it was overrotating. This was with a 12.48" rear and 11.22" front.
Everyone should try what they want and match to their driving style
Bottom line, this is a Mustang that turns
I do want to make a big disclaimer, I am not a suspension expert! I am just trying to share my experience with the Boss so far and try to help others learn from my "mistakes". I know I'd appreciate the same from any of you guys and that's what I see as the value of these forums. Yesterday down at MAM, we started in rain. The car rotated very quickly
when I found the edge and it was almost always oversteer. It dried out late morning and we had a great day. I ran within .012 of my best lap time ever in the GT500 and my tires were on their last legs. (corded my last session). With TracKey and a little more seat time I'll be running faster no doubt. 80% of the time I found the edge yesterday it was overrotating. This was with a 12.48" rear and 11.22" front.Everyone should try what they want and match to their driving style
Bottom line, this is a Mustang that turns
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I already made that mistake on the Boss. Bought one before I took delivery based on my experience with the GT500 on the track. I waited to install it until I tracked the Boss at least once. I sold it after my first track day. I would suggest you track the Boss AT LEAST ONCE before thinking about touching anything on the suspension.
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I already made that mistake on the Boss. Bought one before I took delivery based on my experience with the GT500 on the track. I waited to install it until I tracked the Boss at least once. I sold it after my first track day. I would suggest you track the Boss AT LEAST ONCE before thinking about touching anything on the suspension.
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Given the stock set-up of the SN-95 vehicle was a quad-shock arrangement rather than a tied-down Panhard bar set-up, I definitely would believe that.
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
Given the stock set-up of the SN-95 vehicle was a quad-shock arrangement rather than a tied-down Panhard bar set-up, I definitely would believe that.
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Originally Posted by Bossdog
I have had 2 track days. I'm a novice so I'm not pushing it too hard yet. I haven't had it want to come around on me yet. Understeer seems minimal. I tend to agree it seems set up very well from the factory. I did have it come around on my autocrossing. I am taking your advice. I will get tires and brakes, learn the limits of the car and then try the watts link and see if it is an improvement. I have my old Fays2 Watts link from my SN95 I pulled off if you know anyone who needs one for that model. It made a world of improvement on that vehicle.
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If you go to tirerack you can look up a tire and it will tell you the recommended rim and the smallest and largest rims that can be used. Manufactures like Nitto will also have this on there sites. Generally 275 is the widest for a 9 inch rim, 285 on the 9.5 and I think 305 on the 10 but check with the pros first.
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Hankook feedback
I was thinking about trying these when the PZero were out. They are 2 lbs lighter than the Hankooks and have had great reviews.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ECDW&tab=Specs
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ECDW&tab=Specs
Also the Continental's carry a DOT wear rating of 340 vs the 280 for the Hankooks. I was not looking so much for a high mileage tire (as the 340 would indicate) but something better on the street than the R-compound Pirelli's at a wear rating of 60. I was looking in the 220 wear range to find a balance between tire dry traction "stickiness" and longevity. The 280 rating on the Hankook's satisfied my selection criteria best.
So far I have been quite pleased with the V12's. They are quiet and appear to have good traction. I have not had the car out in the rain to assess that capability but they do carry an AA traction rating.
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Jeff- I am running the Hankook V12's as street tires and weighed them before mounting on the SVT rims. According to your tire rack link the Continental front tires are 4# lighter than the Hankooks and the rear Continental's are 3# lighter. I too looked at the Continental's but found some noncomplementary comments and decided to go Hankook.
Also the Continental's carry a DOT wear rating of 340 vs the 280 for the Hankooks. I was not looking so much for a high mileage tire (as the 340 would indicate) but something better on the street than the R-compound Pirelli's at a wear rating of 60. I was looking in the 220 wear range to find a balance between tire dry traction "stickiness" and longevity. The 280 rating on the Hankook's satisfied my selection criteria best.
So far I have been quite pleased with the V12's. They are quiet and appear to have good traction. I have not had the car out in the rain to assess that capability but they do carry an AA traction rating.
Also the Continental's carry a DOT wear rating of 340 vs the 280 for the Hankooks. I was not looking so much for a high mileage tire (as the 340 would indicate) but something better on the street than the R-compound Pirelli's at a wear rating of 60. I was looking in the 220 wear range to find a balance between tire dry traction "stickiness" and longevity. The 280 rating on the Hankook's satisfied my selection criteria best.
So far I have been quite pleased with the V12's. They are quiet and appear to have good traction. I have not had the car out in the rain to assess that capability but they do carry an AA traction rating.
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I'm planning on running the V12's on my stock wheels for the track as my beginner set. If I get serious about tracking my Boss I'll move to 18's and probably go with Enkei PF01's and Nitto NT05 tires. The NT05's are available in 19's but at 10mm narrower widths than the stock size. Does anyone have an opinion on which tire might be a better choice considering the width difference?
I was planning to go back out on the track with the V12's after running my Corsa's for one session, but did not get the chance. Interestied in your observations as to how the V12's do on the track.
I believe Gary is running (or has run) the NT05's or perhaps they were the 555 RII's on his 18" rims.
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I'm pretty sure he's running the 555 RII's. I'll be happy to share my opinion on the V12's but I won't have anything to compare them to. I'm sure the Pirelli's are better but that's a bit more than I want to spend for track tires starting out.
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Good question Rick. I would be interested in owner comments on this as well.
I was planning to go back out on the track with the V12's after running my Corsa's for one session, but did not get the chance. Interestied in your observations as to how the V12's do on the track.
I believe Gary is running (or has run) the NT05's or perhaps they were the 555 RII's on his 18" rims.
I was planning to go back out on the track with the V12's after running my Corsa's for one session, but did not get the chance. Interestied in your observations as to how the V12's do on the track.
I believe Gary is running (or has run) the NT05's or perhaps they were the 555 RII's on his 18" rims.
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Rick, I now you have the Miller day coming up but if I could suggest taking your Pirellis with you for at least one or two runs first time out. You will not kill them in two sessions, I ran them for a full day and wore a little on the edge. I am glad I had a chance to see how the felt before switching. After that try out the other tires and you get a better feel for the car and the differences in switching tires.
One thing I have found is a major height difference affected the handling. I am too new to this to say for sure but I will know better when I put taller tires up front from what I am running now.
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