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sunoco 260GT fuel worth it?

Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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sunoco 260GT fuel worth it?

Any appreciable advantange to running Sunoco unleaded 100 octane gas in the Coyote engine? Will more HP result or possible engine damage?
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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I doubt it will be beneficial without the trackey
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:18 AM
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even with the track key I'm not sure its much worth it over 91/93 especially with the costs.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptDistraction
even with the track key I'm not sure its much worth it over 91/93 especially with the costs.
When you get the trackey I'll let you try it and let me know if it was
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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lol, point taken, however I hadn't heard anything suggesting the track key was tuned to run higher octane fuel.

I know a bunch of Audi B6/B7 S4 guys who swear by 100-110 octane fuel in their 93 tunes, and while they may feel the 2-3x per gallon cost is better performing, I don't see the value. My point wasn't in the calibration, but overall is that kind of fuel worth any viable difference in a naturally aspirated V8 built for the usual suspects in unleaded fuels.

Even the 302R cars are run with 98 Sunoco, though I wonder how far Ford can go with the street car's calibration. I guess until the key is in hands, or hands that can analyze the calibration just won't know.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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I'm sure in the future the trackey will be available to the GT crowd too.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptDistraction
even with the track key I'm not sure its much worth it over 91/93 especially with the costs.
Well, in fact it does. See my post #41
https://themustangsource.com/f813/so...495813/index3/
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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As a performance engine builder there may be a slight gain by using the 260 but I feel the gains would be limited. When building an engine a rule of thumb is if you have been running cast heads and go to aluminum the compression can be raised 1 point (ie 10:1 to 11:1) and use the same fuel. This is due to the heat dissapation the aluminum has versus cast iron. I am not sure what the rule of thumb is when you go to an aluminum block but I assume that there has to be a gain as well. If you run a fuel that does not have enough octane the knock sensors will retard the timing but if you run a fuel that has too much octane it should not hurt anything but your pocketbook. There may be a small gain by using 260 but I am not sure it would be worth the cost in most situations.
Bob

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Very interesting thread...I was wondering the same thing the other day.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by P0 Corsa
Well, in fact it does. See my post #41
https://themustangsource.com/f813/so...495813/index3/

Interesting indeed
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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I believe Jon Lund had tuned regular coyotes on 100 and said that he saw no benefits going past 96/98
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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100 octane provides some nice peace of mind when running hard on the track, and it's pretty much necessary on a supercharged car. But at 6-7$/gallon, your wallet will be hurting after the weekend.

"Economical" suggestion for guys that track the cars and want some added octane protection: 4-5 gallons of 100 and the rest 91 or 93. One tank should last you a whole track day.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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the only reason i would ever run anything over 93 is if I was driving the **** out of the car at the track all day, and wanted it for protection.
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