SUMMER ONLY - DO NOT DRIVE BELOW 40 DEGREES?
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From: Roy, Washington
YIKES! Thanks for the warning. As others have said, glad you and the Boss are ok. It's been in the 20's and clear here this week. Tempting as it's been to take the Boss, I think I'll stick with the Wrangler til it warms up.
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From: Columbus, OH
As I said earlier, slicker n' snot. Summer tires in the winter blow, at least below 40 degrees.
Glad you're not hurt. You're lucky you didn't bend the wheel or damage your hub. Keep an eye on that wheel bearing though, side impacts like the curb at speed can cause internal damage to them fairly easily.
Glad you're not hurt. You're lucky you didn't bend the wheel or damage your hub. Keep an eye on that wheel bearing though, side impacts like the curb at speed can cause internal damage to them fairly easily.
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The BOSS wanted donuts for breakfast this morning....
Scared the ever loving **** out of myself this morning. Luckily, when it happened, my butthole puckered up real good and kept me from crapping my pants.
It's become part of my normal start up routine to hold the brake and press the traction control button for 5 seconds, disabling AdvanceTrac in the BOSS. As second nature as it is to put your seatbelt on, I turn off all traction control for more... 'spirited' driving.
This morning, it just happened to be 30 degrees outside. Dry. But cold. Despite seeing warnings here about these tires in the cold, I disabled the TC and went on about my morning commute.
I had just made a left hand turn onto a 2 lane, same direction, access road alongside the main highway through town. I was in the left lane, attempting to ease ahead of the Ford Ranger to my right so I could merge into his lane before the next off ramp. It seemed like he was toying with me a bit, keeping nose to nose with me, so I put a little more gas into it. And I mean, a little more. I didn't take into consideration where I was in the power band, and again, how crappy the tires are in the cold. Without any effort at all, the rear end of the car shot to the left, front end to the right, I over corrected, and I was in a counter clockwise spin. Oh. ****.
Still got the Ranger in the lane next to me and a pair of vehicles behind us. I know because I saw their headlights. Twice. I have a feeling the hardness of the cold tires allowed me to complete a 720* spin, and I ended up facing forward, which I guess is a bit of a blessing? My forward/rotational movement was finally stopped by the curb. Worst feeling in the world.
After restarting the car, I put on my blinker and made it off the road into the Famous Dave's parking lot, and the driver of the Ranger followed me in. I got out, he rolled down his window, I immediately asked if I had contacted his truck, he said no and asked if I was alright. I said I think I just shat my pants a bit, but I'm ok, and I explained what I was doing and what had happened. He's like wow dude, that thing must have some power behind it. Too much for cold tires. I inspected the car, fully expecting to see thrashed wheels and loose bumper covers and gouged side skirts. (When spinning and being jolted around, your mind thinks the worst.) Much to my relief, everything was intact. The only visible reminder of the incident is about a 1-1.5" bit of curb rash on the extreme outter lip of the driver's side front wheel. Sucks. Sucks major ****. But at the same time, I know I'm lucky that's all that happened. I learned my lesson. Don't disable traction control in the extreme cold. And get winter wheels/tires.
Ironically, this was the exact same section of road where I got loose in the Bullitt a few years ago, and ended up thrashing a wheel on that same section of curb. It was dry then as well, and nowhere near cold. I'm never driving on that road again. Screw that.
Scared the ever loving **** out of myself this morning. Luckily, when it happened, my butthole puckered up real good and kept me from crapping my pants.
It's become part of my normal start up routine to hold the brake and press the traction control button for 5 seconds, disabling AdvanceTrac in the BOSS. As second nature as it is to put your seatbelt on, I turn off all traction control for more... 'spirited' driving.
This morning, it just happened to be 30 degrees outside. Dry. But cold. Despite seeing warnings here about these tires in the cold, I disabled the TC and went on about my morning commute.
I had just made a left hand turn onto a 2 lane, same direction, access road alongside the main highway through town. I was in the left lane, attempting to ease ahead of the Ford Ranger to my right so I could merge into his lane before the next off ramp. It seemed like he was toying with me a bit, keeping nose to nose with me, so I put a little more gas into it. And I mean, a little more. I didn't take into consideration where I was in the power band, and again, how crappy the tires are in the cold. Without any effort at all, the rear end of the car shot to the left, front end to the right, I over corrected, and I was in a counter clockwise spin. Oh. ****.
Still got the Ranger in the lane next to me and a pair of vehicles behind us. I know because I saw their headlights. Twice. I have a feeling the hardness of the cold tires allowed me to complete a 720* spin, and I ended up facing forward, which I guess is a bit of a blessing? My forward/rotational movement was finally stopped by the curb. Worst feeling in the world.
After restarting the car, I put on my blinker and made it off the road into the Famous Dave's parking lot, and the driver of the Ranger followed me in. I got out, he rolled down his window, I immediately asked if I had contacted his truck, he said no and asked if I was alright. I said I think I just shat my pants a bit, but I'm ok, and I explained what I was doing and what had happened. He's like wow dude, that thing must have some power behind it. Too much for cold tires. I inspected the car, fully expecting to see thrashed wheels and loose bumper covers and gouged side skirts. (When spinning and being jolted around, your mind thinks the worst.) Much to my relief, everything was intact. The only visible reminder of the incident is about a 1-1.5" bit of curb rash on the extreme outter lip of the driver's side front wheel. Sucks. Sucks major ****. But at the same time, I know I'm lucky that's all that happened. I learned my lesson. Don't disable traction control in the extreme cold. And get winter wheels/tires.
Ironically, this was the exact same section of road where I got loose in the Bullitt a few years ago, and ended up thrashing a wheel on that same section of curb. It was dry then as well, and nowhere near cold. I'm never driving on that road again. Screw that.
This brings up a good subject. What is the best winter wheel/tire combo for the Boss? I am looking to purchase.
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Scroll up 6 posts.The Hanooks & Blizzak 240/40's was a real good answer.
Blizzak's will wear like the devil in the summer or on long drives, but will otherwise do a great job for you, .... if you let them!
INKY
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From: New Braunfels
Have the Blizzak's on the wife's for the winter and they are great. Had a ton of snow last year and never had an issue.
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From: Ohio
All this reminds me of the fun times I had with my '86 5.0L Capri. It came with Goodyear Gatorbacks. Since it was my only car back then I had to drive it year round in the balmy state of Ohio. I lost count of how many times I had that car sideways without even trying which means most of the time it was totally unexpected. More than once it happened at speeds approaching 60 mph. The fact that I am writing this today tells you that it can be survived. It should also be noted that by the second winter I had a proper set of full-on winter treads on the back.
Last edited by blksn8k; Jan 13, 2012 at 04:45 AM.
As I said earlier, slicker n' snot. Summer tires in the winter blow, at least below 40 degrees.
Glad you're not hurt. You're lucky you didn't bend the wheel or damage your hub. Keep an eye on that wheel bearing though, side impacts like the curb at speed can cause internal damage to them fairly easily.
Glad you're not hurt. You're lucky you didn't bend the wheel or damage your hub. Keep an eye on that wheel bearing though, side impacts like the curb at speed can cause internal damage to them fairly easily.
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From: Columbus OH
I have never gotten into that kind of trouble before but in the same theme. Years ago, I had to take my '3 Z06 shod with Pirelli PZero Corsa in 17F. The roads were dry; there was no salt or ice. I backed the car down the driveway and onto the street. Put it in 1st and it just sat spinning tires. I tried a couple more times with less throttle input; no dice.
Put it in second and by slipping the clutch at idle speed, the car finally moved. At the first turn, albeit at a very low speed, all 4 tires skidded. The fronts were due to the width (315) and the push; the rears were due to the near-locked-up LSD. During the 8-mile drive to work, throttle inputs were best defined as "gingerly low" and in all gears, but 6th, the rears spun on-demand with wheelhop mixed in here and there.
I chalked it up to exercise in futility.
Put it in second and by slipping the clutch at idle speed, the car finally moved. At the first turn, albeit at a very low speed, all 4 tires skidded. The fronts were due to the width (315) and the push; the rears were due to the near-locked-up LSD. During the 8-mile drive to work, throttle inputs were best defined as "gingerly low" and in all gears, but 6th, the rears spun on-demand with wheelhop mixed in here and there.
I chalked it up to exercise in futility.
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