Say What? Melting Pistons!?
#22
It's cool, they are shipping all new builds with pre-melted pistons as of 6/20
#23
There's more than a couple w/ aftermarket tunes that have ate it. Some tuners even recalled tunes and sent out new ones to avoid these issues.
Bottom line is most tuners don't really understand the way the 5.0 behaves yet, and old tuning strategies for the 4.6L won't necessarily behave the same way.
If you've got a BOSS, wait for TracKey, and if you've got a GT, get the FRPP tune.
Bottom line is most tuners don't really understand the way the 5.0 behaves yet, and old tuning strategies for the 4.6L won't necessarily behave the same way.
If you've got a BOSS, wait for TracKey, and if you've got a GT, get the FRPP tune.
#24
Originally Posted by 300AGT
Well if you ask them they say no way it was them . Now just me thinking i think there may have been some custom tunes done that may have been pushing it a litte to far . Had the knock sensor setting set to low and that #8 cly may run leaner than the other do .The motor than ping bam dead piston but that just me thinking .
If the implication is that there is a systemic defect in these motors, this is a poor argument to support that statement.
#25
As I understand it, the GT and Boss use different pistons any way- The Boss has forged pistons. Problems with the GT don't necessarily translate to the Boss.
This whole story seems like a hoax to me.
This whole story seems like a hoax to me.
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Here's the melted piston.................
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FROM AN M3!!!!!!!!!!!
At least he looks happy!
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Bottom line on this thread is your dealer probably lost two allocations and doesn't know how to break it to you so he made up another BS story.
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When I spoke with the Boss ford team Guys I met at Mid Ohio Track, we talked about aftermarket tunes. I know they are Factory guys and all but he made a good point. Somenthing to the effect of ... " I would be leary about aftermarket tunes after seeing how many thousands of hours our team takes programing all the parameters, I would not turn my $40K car over to some guy to change various performance parameters after a few hours on a Dyno"
I guess when I can out-drive my Boss (wiht the elusive Trackey), I'll start looking at a 302R. With 4 track days a year, I'm a long way out!
I guess when I can out-drive my Boss (wiht the elusive Trackey), I'll start looking at a 302R. With 4 track days a year, I'm a long way out!
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Bossdog, I came to the very same conclusion after talking to the actual Ford engine tuners.
The complex interlacing of all the program subroutines together with the encripted paramater listings, I just do not see how an outside shop can know or understand all the interrelations.
But owners are free to spend as they think best....
The complex interlacing of all the program subroutines together with the encripted paramater listings, I just do not see how an outside shop can know or understand all the interrelations.
But owners are free to spend as they think best....
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The race shop I took my car to for the Dyno run said leave it alone when I asked what I thought they could do to improve it.
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Bossdog, I came to the very same conclusion after talking to the actual Ford engine tuners.
The complex interlacing of all the program subroutines together with the encripted paramater listings, I just do not see how an outside shop can know or understand all the interrelations.
But owners are free to spend as they think best....
The complex interlacing of all the program subroutines together with the encripted paramater listings, I just do not see how an outside shop can know or understand all the interrelations.
But owners are free to spend as they think best....
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I once had a salesman tell me you couldn't get a GT in grabber blue because he wanted to sell me the V6 on his lot ![Nonono](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/nonono.gif)
Bottomline is, some of them will say and do very stupid things.
And those #8's are most likely poor/overly agressive tunes
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Bottomline is, some of them will say and do very stupid things.
And those #8's are most likely poor/overly agressive tunes
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That's what I was thinking, especially since he told me that it may take some months before the problems could be fixed. Can you say Q2 turned into Q3 or Q4?
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When I spoke with the Boss ford team Guys I met at Mid Ohio Track, we talked about aftermarket tunes. I know they are Factory guys and all but he made a good point. Somenthing to the effect of ... " I would be leary about aftermarket tunes after seeing how many thousands of hours our team takes programing all the parameters, I would not turn my $40K car over to some guy to change various performance parameters after a few hours on a Dyno"
I guess when I can out-drive my Boss (wiht the elusive Trackey), I'll start looking at a 302R. With 4 track days a year, I'm a long way out!
I guess when I can out-drive my Boss (wiht the elusive Trackey), I'll start looking at a 302R. With 4 track days a year, I'm a long way out!
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