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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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I do have to say that it has one of the most awkward dipsticks ever placed in a motor.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
I do have to say that it has one of the most awkward dipsticks ever placed in a motor.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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I"m going to throw this out for conversation.
Full synthetic oils are so slippery that they are not my choice of break-in oil. I found this out the hard way when I had to replace a jug on the 0-360 Lycoming engine in a my Cherokee. I was running synthetic at the time with good results, being higher oilk pressure and better cooling and a reasonable oil consumption rate per hour.
That cylinder never did break-in, and increased oil consumption to an almost unacceptable level.
That said, I can see why Ford chose this oil for the Boss from the getgo.
It's hard to resist not stepping on the gas peddle from day one. (I did resist reving it to the redline until I had over 1000 miles on it). But the car is meant to be driven and I've seen guys rev limit the Boss from the first day they got it.
So my guess is Ford wanted the best engine oil protection from day one and chose the 5-50 synthetic oil to do so, ..... perhaps at the expense of a slightly poorer break-in and therefore more oil consumption.
Now here's a choker for you,...... I was very tempted to drop the synthetic oil after 1000 miles and go with 10 -30 conventional oil for the next 3000 - 5000 miles to get a better engine break-in, then go back to Ford's full synthetic oil.
I didn't because I wasn't sure of all the implications of doing so, and my oil consumption was not high at all. That led me to conclude that my enging break-in proceedure was relatively successful, so I just dumped the first batch of oil out at 1800 miles to get rid of any metal particles, and re-filled with reccomended oil again, just before I put it away for the winter.
So that's my story,
Your mileage may vary,.........
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
I do have to say that it has one of the most awkward dipsticks ever placed in a motor.
Take off the "sound tube" and dip stick access is much easier.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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Hey guys,

I agree with most of the members about checking your oil whether your vehicle is brand new, fairly new, or not so new. It’s a great rule of thumb and it’s also in your Owner Guide. If anyone feels their oil consumption is excessive, please contact your Ford dealer and PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, and contact info so I can help.

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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by phytrpilot

Take off the "sound tube" and dip stick access is much easier.
Huh?! I may be a dip but what-up wit that?
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by phytrpilot
Take off the "sound tube" and dip stick access is much easier.
Have to agree much easier,to check the oil with ths sound tube removed.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyBoss302
Huh?! I may be a dip but what-up wit that?
LadyBoss,
Here's the thread on removing the sound tube. My 2nd mod on mine.
https://themustangsource.com/f813/so...delete-501967/
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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LadyBoss,
Here's the thread on removing the sound tube. My 2nd mod on mine.
https://themustangsource.com/f813/so...delete-501967/
Hmmm interesting, glad I asked, missed the earlier thread. Am now considering this as I have had a hard time with oil level checks too.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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I wonder if the "oil users" fall into a certain build date range? Mine is #887 and being a quart low after 1800 miles - would certainly fall into this.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
I wonder if the "oil users" fall into a certain build date range? Mine is #887 and being a quart low after 1800 miles - would certainly fall into this.
#822 - no problems 3700 miles with 2 track days
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Do we have a "PT Cruiser" on our hands?
Curious about this comment since my 192,000 mile PT uses 1 qt. every 4,000 miles, which seems relatively normal to me.


The valve cover repair that you mention was first presented in the PTCC forums about 2 year ago. At that time there was no TSB, and to our knowledge that hasn't changed. To the best of my knowledge it only affected a very small percentage of 2001 model year PT's.
Heh, guess it doesn't take much to ruin a car's reputation in the days of the internet.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
I wonder if the "oil users" fall into a certain build date range? Mine is #887 and being a quart low after 1800 miles - would certainly fall into this.
mine is #903 and has not used any oil, driven spiritedly and no track days....yet
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustang_Man
Curious about this comment since my 192,000 mile PT uses 1 qt. every 4,000 miles, which seems relatively normal to me.
What's normal? I've owned 4 cars in my life ('81, '87,'01','08), and they never required topping off oil. I think its people that have that experience that are a bit surprised when they have to start feeding their engine "extra" oil in between changes.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang_Man
Curious about this comment since my 192,000 mile PT uses 1 qt. every 4,000 miles, which seems relatively normal to me.



Heh, guess it doesn't take much to ruin a car's reputation in the days of the internet.
Well, many PT people were amazed and complained about oil consumption when none of the non 4 banger Mopars were using a drop. Guys with trucks to Chargers were seeing zero consumption and yet many people with PT's were seeing consumption. My buddy keyed me into it, his used a quart every 1000 to 1500 miles.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang_Man
Curious about this comment since my 192,000 mile PT uses 1 qt. every 4,000 miles, which seems relatively normal to me.
I agree. My '10 Cruiser 4V uses about a qt/4k. My Bullitt 3V uses 1/2 qt in 3k.
Back in the day the saying was "if you aren't using a qt in a 1000, you're not lubricating the upper cylinder!"

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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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No oil usage, 4 track days, 5,000 miles.
Definitely no oil usage until spring since the pony is in the corral for the winter.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by askjeffro
What's normal? I've owned 4 cars in my life ('81, '87,'01','08), and they never required topping off oil. I think its people that have that experience that are a bit surprised when they have to start feeding their engine "extra" oil in between changes.
Heh - I use conventional oil in the PT - changed every 3k since I bought it in '04 with 60k on it. Never had to add any oil between changes.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang_Man
Heh - I use conventional oil in the PT - changed every 3k since I bought it in '04 with 60k on it. Never had to add any oil between changes.
Same here. 2500 on Bullitt and 3k on Cruiser this last year. My F150 uses some oil (rear main leakage too) but only about 1k a year. So I fall under the 'once/year' rule for changing oil more that mileage. Dino in two, Motorcraft Synth in Bullitt.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
I wonder if the "oil users" fall into a certain build date range? Mine is #887 and being a quart low after 1800 miles - would certainly fall into this.
Was this the first 1800 miles omn the car?
If it was, it's just the engine breaking in.
If you have 3000+ miles on the car and are using a quart every 1800 miles, it's consuming somewhat more that it should.
BTW, I did my first oil change after 2000 miles.
I don't like the fine metal particles from break-in or particles left in the block churning around in the oil too long.
Cheers,
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