How many Keys do you get?
4/15/11, 01:28 PM
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The point is you car stealers don't TELL the consumer this up front.
Didn't know I was required to...?
Sync phone? Check
Clean for delivery? Check
Full tank of Fuel? Check
I just read over Ford's delivery checklist and it doesn't say anything about mentioning a 3rd key. Weird.
I never said anything about giving did I?
Yes you did. Lie much? I quoted you AGAIN below in case you missed your original post OR the first time I quoted you.
I've read this issue several times on several different (brand) forums. MANY people are unaware. Its a scam to sneakily steal from the consumer rather than at the time of the close saying, btw...
The sky isn't falling Chicken Little. News flash: I don't care if/when someone buys a 3rd, 4th, fifth key etc. I'm sure the dealer would LOVE to make a few extra bucks selling extra keys to every new car customer. Why keep it a secret?
What you are reading on forums is people who are frustrated at their own ignorance on their ability to buy a key BEFORE they lose one, frustrated that they lost it in the first place, and frustrated that it costs money to have a service performed.
A blank key cost me $25 and my locksmith charged me $10. You car salesman suckheads charge a couple hundred after the fact for your blank and "programming". What a joke.
Didn't know I was required to...?
Sync phone? Check
Clean for delivery? Check
Full tank of Fuel? Check
I just read over Ford's delivery checklist and it doesn't say anything about mentioning a 3rd key. Weird.
I never said anything about giving did I?
Yes you did. Lie much? I quoted you AGAIN below in case you missed your original post OR the first time I quoted you.
I've read this issue several times on several different (brand) forums. MANY people are unaware. Its a scam to sneakily steal from the consumer rather than at the time of the close saying, btw...
The sky isn't falling Chicken Little. News flash: I don't care if/when someone buys a 3rd, 4th, fifth key etc. I'm sure the dealer would LOVE to make a few extra bucks selling extra keys to every new car customer. Why keep it a secret?
What you are reading on forums is people who are frustrated at their own ignorance on their ability to buy a key BEFORE they lose one, frustrated that they lost it in the first place, and frustrated that it costs money to have a service performed.
A blank key cost me $25 and my locksmith charged me $10. You car salesman suckheads charge a couple hundred after the fact for your blank and "programming". What a joke.
Biggest screw job ever. The dealer should give you 3 but they don't. They conveniently fail to tell the consumer this.
Get a blank off ebay and have it cut asap. Cause it takes 2 to SELF program another. (See your owners manual.) If you lose one of your two with your new car, you're screwed and have to get another one through the dealer - and it ain't cheap. I damaged one of my girl friends Jeep keys back in 07 and it cost me $180 bucks!
Now, for all my new cars, I immediately get a blank off ebay ($10-25), have it cut at the locksmith ($10), and hide it. That way if I lose my keys, I still have 2 sets and can SELF program a replacement.
4/15/11, 02:50 PM
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Dealers generally charge 75-100 for a non-integrated key, not sure how much for one with the flob. Going to have to spring for an extra Redkey since I doubt they will show on eBay anytime soon. My dealer would not add a extra key for me in both deals I just made. I bought my own and the day I picked up the car they did cut it for me and I programmed them before I left the lot.
You best bet is just to get a key from Amazon or eBay, much cheaper to keep as an extra Pats key (not Trackey). There are handheld programmers out there that can make keys if you get into a jam but many work well on Toyota's and other foreign cars but not so well on Fords. The Pats system is pretty secure on Fords so if you get a programmer make sure you ask if it will work on Ford's Pats system.
This is one reason Fords are stolen less
You best bet is just to get a key from Amazon or eBay, much cheaper to keep as an extra Pats key (not Trackey). There are handheld programmers out there that can make keys if you get into a jam but many work well on Toyota's and other foreign cars but not so well on Fords. The Pats system is pretty secure on Fords so if you get a programmer make sure you ask if it will work on Ford's Pats system.
This is one reason Fords are stolen less
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4/15/11, 03:49 PM
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But whwere do you buy 3rd keys?
No one has responded to this question posted yesterday.
Is there a site that someone has dealt with in the past and they provided the correct key at a reasonable price; and
what kind of key do you look for to be for sale? A PATS key?
I did find this site that described the procedure to program a PATS key...clearly explained.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/54...-pats-key.html
I also found this site for sales of Transponder keys and remotes.
http://www.remotesandkeys.com/search...s.asp?cat=4084
Do you need both the remote fob and the key......or just the key?
Thanks
4/15/11, 04:29 PM
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No one has responded to this question posted yesterday.
Is there a site that someone has dealt with in the past and they provided the correct key at a reasonable price; and
what kind of key do you look for to be for sale? A PATS key?
I did find this site that described the procedure to program a PATS key...clearly explained.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/54...-pats-key.html
I also found this site for sales of Transponder keys and remotes.
http://www.remotesandkeys.com/search...s.asp?cat=4084
Do you need both the remote fob and the key......or just the key?
Thanks
Is there a site that someone has dealt with in the past and they provided the correct key at a reasonable price; and
what kind of key do you look for to be for sale? A PATS key?
I did find this site that described the procedure to program a PATS key...clearly explained.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/54...-pats-key.html
I also found this site for sales of Transponder keys and remotes.
http://www.remotesandkeys.com/search...s.asp?cat=4084
Do you need both the remote fob and the key......or just the key?
Thanks
http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chapstick4 this seller. When my father thought he did not receive them he offered to send out new ones again. With luck my father he had misplaced them and I was able to cancel the replacements.
Any Pats key that works on any later model Fords will work on the Boss but check with the seller as I do not have a part number. The shape will most likely tell you it is correct. The key I just used to make a spare for the Boss is the same as a key I just made for a 2010 F150.
Programming the Flob is a totally separate issue, You can get one if you use the non-flob key every day like me, if it is a spare then no you do not need it. They can be programed at different times.
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4/15/11, 05:14 PM
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You can find the keys anywhere, just search the sites I mentioned to find the best price. last time I bought some I got them from
http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chapstick4 this seller. When my father thought he did not receive them he offered to send out new ones again. With luck my father he had misplaced them and I was able to cancel the replacements.
Any Pats key that works on any later model Fords will work on the Boss but check with the seller as I do not have a part number. The shape will most likely tell you it is correct. The key I just used to make a spare for the Boss is the same as a key I just made for an 2010 F150.
Programming the Flob is a totally separate issue, You can get one if you use the non-flob key every day like me, if it is a spare then no you do not need it. They can be programed at different times.
http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chapstick4 this seller. When my father thought he did not receive them he offered to send out new ones again. With luck my father he had misplaced them and I was able to cancel the replacements.
Any Pats key that works on any later model Fords will work on the Boss but check with the seller as I do not have a part number. The shape will most likely tell you it is correct. The key I just used to make a spare for the Boss is the same as a key I just made for an 2010 F150.
Programming the Flob is a totally separate issue, You can get one if you use the non-flob key every day like me, if it is a spare then no you do not need it. They can be programed at different times.
4/15/11, 05:19 PM
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Correct but check with the seller. I had a few uncut keys, all the same, cut one for a friend's 06 F150, another one for an Explorer, my 10 F150, my 08 Mustang and the 12 Boss.
4/15/11, 08:37 PM
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It's clear what you think of customers.
Sure - no one needs a third key - until Dealer thieves have them over a barrel.
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[I never said anything about giving did I?]
My bad - I didn't mean give as in N/C. I meant provide - as in inform and make the option available.
If myself - and many friends - like many on this & other forums - had been informed ahead of time by a conscientious salesman (not that you know what that means), then I would have paid a REASONABLE fee for a 3rd set when I took delivery.
But not the few hundred bucks you screw people out of - its just a damm key you know??
Car hacks - I don't know what is worse, that most are thieves, or their attitude towards customers - who's commissions pay for their houses.
30 years in sales and I am so proud I have no car hack slime on my reputation!
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4/25/11, 06:09 PM
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Funny - I could smell your used car salesman turds a mile away.
It's clear what you think of customers.
See "President's Award, below.
Sure - no one needs a third key - until Dealer thieves have them over a barrel.
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[I never said anything about giving did I?]
My bad - I didn't mean give as in N/C. I meant provide - as in inform and make the option available.
Lie? Double-talk? Back-Peddle? Who sounds like a "used car salesman"?
If myself - and many friends - like many on this & other forums - had been informed ahead of time by a conscientious salesman (not that you know what that means), then I would have paid a REASONABLE fee for a 3rd set when I took delivery.
Typical of what's wrong in society; blame others for your own ignorance.
But not the few hundred bucks you screw people out of - its just a damm key you know??
Maybe you should sell them...?
Car hacks - I don't know what is worse, that most are thieves, or their attitude towards customers - who's commissions pay for their houses.
30 years in sales and I am so proud I have no car hack slime on my reputation!
It's clear what you think of customers.
See "President's Award, below.
Sure - no one needs a third key - until Dealer thieves have them over a barrel.
*****
[I never said anything about giving did I?]
My bad - I didn't mean give as in N/C. I meant provide - as in inform and make the option available.
Lie? Double-talk? Back-Peddle? Who sounds like a "used car salesman"?
If myself - and many friends - like many on this & other forums - had been informed ahead of time by a conscientious salesman (not that you know what that means), then I would have paid a REASONABLE fee for a 3rd set when I took delivery.
Typical of what's wrong in society; blame others for your own ignorance.
But not the few hundred bucks you screw people out of - its just a damm key you know??
Maybe you should sell them...?
Car hacks - I don't know what is worse, that most are thieves, or their attitude towards customers - who's commissions pay for their houses.
30 years in sales and I am so proud I have no car hack slime on my reputation!
I work for the top Ford dealer in my state and we just earned the President's Award, i.e. customer satisfaction and sales were at the top of our group. I don't need any advice from a lying double-talking idiot such as yourself to "teach" me anything. You obviously have little to no business sense and definitely no first-hand knowledge other than your own ignorance/irresponsibility regarding your own key that you apparently can't keep track of.
I am no hack and am proud of what I have accomplished in my profession. I have made a lot of friends and earned many loyal customers for life.
PS - I don't think you could make it selling cars for me. You lie and double-talk too much, and your back-peddling is weak at best.
Have a good day
4/25/11, 06:16 PM
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I work for the top Ford dealer in my state and we just earned the President's Award, i.e. customer satisfaction and sales were at the top of our group. I don't need any advice from a lying double-talking idiot such as yourself to "teach" me anything. You obviously have little to no business sense and definitely no first-hand knowledge other than your own ignorance/irresponsibility regarding your own key that you apparently can't keep track of.
I am no hack and am proud of what I have accomplished in my profession. I have made a lot of friends and earned many loyal customers for life.
PS - I don't think you could make it selling cars for me. You lie and double-talk too much, and your back-peddling is weak at best.
Have a good day
I am no hack and am proud of what I have accomplished in my profession. I have made a lot of friends and earned many loyal customers for life.
PS - I don't think you could make it selling cars for me. You lie and double-talk too much, and your back-peddling is weak at best.
Have a good day
Dave
4/25/11, 06:41 PM
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Eh you guys are right. I just get really fired up when someone who doesn't know me calls into question my business practices and/or ethics. I take what I do very seriously and am proud of the way I do it.
cdynaco - have at it
cdynaco - have at it
4/26/11, 07:44 AM
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last time I bought some I got them from
http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chapstick4 this seller
http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chapstick4 this seller
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""I do not have my books on the 2012 models and Have not seen one in person yet so I am not sure what key it uses. When you get your keys let me know what letters are on the blades of the keys and I will let you know which keys you need.""
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Do all BOSS keys have the same letters on them, if yes can you share what they are so I can order a set?
LQQK
4/26/11, 01:56 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
This is the key I bought and it worked fine in the Boss.
This is the key I bought and it worked fine in the Boss.
4/26/11, 03:05 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
This is the key I bought and it worked fine in the Boss.
This is the key I bought and it worked fine in the Boss.
4/26/11, 03:22 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
This is the key I bought and it worked fine in the Boss.
This is the key I bought and it worked fine in the Boss.
One is for the Wife-->
One for hiding under car-->
I'm keeping the Black key-->
& the RED key-->
4/26/11, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LQQK
Yes, you have to register. I paid with PP.
Thanks I have an account from years ago doubt it works . Registering is simple
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