h&r rss installed and road tested
h&r rss installed and road tested
I just got my h&r rss installed with my MM camber plates. I got the 05-10 model for a larger discount over the 11. If your using a camber plate then it doesn't matter which model you use as long as you get the 2010 upper strut mount from Ford. I got my mounts from rockauto for $50 shipped and I saved about $300 from getting the 2011 h&r's , which are identical minus the top spring shape.
I got them dialed in at....
front -1" (maxed to the highest)and 3 clicks from full soft on the shocks
rear -1.5" (maxed to the highest)and shocks are nonadjustable
front camber at -2.1 and 2/16" toe out
Interesting thing is that the eibach camber bolts I was using also maxed out around -2.1
I was able to take it on some potholed freeways and the ride was definitely a bit bouncy out back but the traction was still there. I would hate to put my kids in the back on that stretch of freeway, unless I was punishing them
The rest of the roads feel fine but the rear does seem pretty firm.
And then I found my favorite canyon that I've been running through for the past 10 years and let it loose. The body roll is about a 1/10 of what it was before and the car hides its weight much better. The body roll transition time is about 75% less than it was with my boss shocks set on 5, and the nose dive is nonexistent. And best of all the handling is still neutral with a tad bit more oversteer(this can be fixed with adjusting the front shock) but the car remained neutral and predictable but with a higher level of feedback.
I wouldn't choose these c/o if I weren't tracking the car bc the firm ride would be too much of a compromise for a street only car, however I have no doubts that this car will be faster or at least more consistent at the track. I can't wait to get some track times in....
I got them dialed in at....
front -1" (maxed to the highest)and 3 clicks from full soft on the shocks
rear -1.5" (maxed to the highest)and shocks are nonadjustable
front camber at -2.1 and 2/16" toe out
Interesting thing is that the eibach camber bolts I was using also maxed out around -2.1
I was able to take it on some potholed freeways and the ride was definitely a bit bouncy out back but the traction was still there. I would hate to put my kids in the back on that stretch of freeway, unless I was punishing them
And then I found my favorite canyon that I've been running through for the past 10 years and let it loose. The body roll is about a 1/10 of what it was before and the car hides its weight much better. The body roll transition time is about 75% less than it was with my boss shocks set on 5, and the nose dive is nonexistent. And best of all the handling is still neutral with a tad bit more oversteer(this can be fixed with adjusting the front shock) but the car remained neutral and predictable but with a higher level of feedback.
I wouldn't choose these c/o if I weren't tracking the car bc the firm ride would be too much of a compromise for a street only car, however I have no doubts that this car will be faster or at least more consistent at the track. I can't wait to get some track times in....
Last edited by Krnnerdboy; Jan 27, 2012 at 08:25 PM.
Originally Posted by cloud9
Thanks for being a guinea pig
Had you tracked the car before installation to be able to get some lap time comparisons? When's your next track event?
I'm going to try to run on the 2nd week of feb, but hopefully my tires will last that long or I'm going to throw a variable in there. Btw my camber hasn't changed since the last outing, I just used bolts instead of the plate
In for results. I will be curious to see if you will need an adjustable sway bar to dial out any understeer or oversteer that you may have with changing the suspension setup as well as ride height. Thanks for testing!
I just got back from WSIR and running horse thief mile, unfortunately this was my first time on this track so I have no time comparisons available. However I got a solid feel for the suspension and have no doubt that this is faster than the stock suspension(have to wait until next month for "streets" time comparison).
The car was very neutral with my setting (3/8 front) plenty of room for adjustments to run a square setup. The body roll transition time is 1/10th of stock(@ 5 setting) and there was plenty of traction coming out of bumpy corners. The best attribute of this suspension is the feedback it gives and the brake dive and body roll that disappeared. Take my experience with a grain of salt... I only have a dozen track days and the only cars I can compare the boss to is an s2k, mini s, z4m, e92 m3, e46 m3, 350z, 997.1 base
pros:
-neutral with enough adjustments for oversteer or square setup
-trail braking was much easier to control the rear end
-eliminated wheel hop on the track and the streets
-minimizes brake dive and body roll
-higher level of driver confidence
-a lot easier to save the car when your about to spin(feedback)
-the advance trac seems to like this suspension better(allows more wheel spin)
-price(I feel these are more track oriented than kw v3's, at least what I had on my other car)
cons
-ride height at max setting is 1.5fr and 2"rr drop
-I wouldn't put my 2 year old in the back seat, fearing she might bite her lip or get a seatbelt burn on the bumps
-only the front is dampening adjustable(and must be adjusted from the bottom)
The car was very neutral with my setting (3/8 front) plenty of room for adjustments to run a square setup. The body roll transition time is 1/10th of stock(@ 5 setting) and there was plenty of traction coming out of bumpy corners. The best attribute of this suspension is the feedback it gives and the brake dive and body roll that disappeared. Take my experience with a grain of salt... I only have a dozen track days and the only cars I can compare the boss to is an s2k, mini s, z4m, e92 m3, e46 m3, 350z, 997.1 base
pros:
-neutral with enough adjustments for oversteer or square setup
-trail braking was much easier to control the rear end
-eliminated wheel hop on the track and the streets
-minimizes brake dive and body roll
-higher level of driver confidence
-a lot easier to save the car when your about to spin(feedback)
-the advance trac seems to like this suspension better(allows more wheel spin)
-price(I feel these are more track oriented than kw v3's, at least what I had on my other car)
cons
-ride height at max setting is 1.5fr and 2"rr drop
-I wouldn't put my 2 year old in the back seat, fearing she might bite her lip or get a seatbelt burn on the bumps
-only the front is dampening adjustable(and must be adjusted from the bottom)
I'm still running still running stock size(happens to be the same size as e60 m5's) and I didn't install a panhard bc I wasn't sure if I wanted a watts link, but I'm so satisfied with the way the car is right now, I'm going to pick up a phb and be done with it. The the rear axle is noticeably cocked to driver side at this ride height and I hear some rub on the passenger shock on steep driveways
Just got back from track and ran my new square setup(275/35/19) and the car was "perfectly neutral" with the fronts adjusted to 1 click short of full stiff. W/ these coilovers you don't need strut bars to dial out any oversteer from the square setup. Not to mention I am 100% positive that the boss is quicker now over stock
. Now I feel like I'm satisfied with the overall track performance
. Now I feel like I'm satisfied with the overall track performance
Originally Posted by 06GT
+1000 plz
I understand that lap times are the only objective proof for increase in performance, but there's more to it than just times. With that said, I can put money on it that this setup is faster than the stock setup
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