Gt500 vs Boss vs GT vs V6

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Mar 28, 2011 | 11:15 AM

#21

iDrive

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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0

With 1:2X lap times weren't they running the short course?

Same course as these listed records:

Notice Edmunds has the Boss quicker than the LS and Randy Pobst with a 10' GT500 at 1:23.48.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/wi...of_willow.html

Dave

Mar 28, 2011 | 11:19 AM

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DFV

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From: a racetrack somewhere

Edmunds didn't mention TracKey, so I assume that they ran the LS without the program. Curious to see if TracKey improves lap times.

Mar 28, 2011 | 11:20 AM

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iDrive

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lol, just noticed the video shot has the LS as a 2011. 1 of 1, lol!

Dave

Mar 28, 2011 | 12:11 PM

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5 DOT 0

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iDrive

Same course as these listed records:

Notice Edmunds has the Boss quicker than the LS and Randy Pobst with a 10' GT500 at 1:23.48.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/wi...of_willow.html

Dave

While I've never driven either track I believe that's the shorter of the two. Maybe they don't run the longer track anymore but I found this info, note #27:

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow_springs.html

Mar 28, 2011 | 12:13 PM

#25

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What a great line up of Mustangs!

Mar 28, 2011 | 12:40 PM

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bpmurr

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Originally Posted by MrBonus

I saw the photographs of your new GT500 and it's gorgeous. Any chance you'll be taking it out for any local track events? I'd love to see it in person.

Can you send me a list? I'd like to go and at least watch for now. I'm very hesitant to run it on any kind of track at the moment because of my experience with my 2010 GT500 and warranty support.

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Originally Posted by cloud9

That's good they were able to improve it. Do you run an ECT or Oil temp gauge or have any datalogs? I run a huge twin fan heat exchanger and C&R radiator with oversize intercooler reservoir. I also dial down the hp/tq from 640/625 to 575/545 using a 2.9" upper blower pulley versus the 2.6" I run on the street. I was still peaking IAT2s toward 160 and ECT into the low 230s with that setup in 85 degree ambient. I met David Murray up at BIR last summer at a PCA track event. He ran a Ford GT in the ALMS series and he said they were always battling the heat soak issue. They got pretty inventive with how they plumbed the intercooler and made it work, but still sounded like it was a battle to keep it cool on the road course. He was a really cool guy, even went out and sat at turn 3 and watched us for a session and coached us.

Since I got it a week ago I really don't have any datalogs as of yet. I just know under normal operation the car runs a lot cooler. I'll be sure to share them with you when I get a chance to record some.

Mar 28, 2011 | 12:49 PM

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Boomer

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GT500 needs a track to stretch its legs against the 302s

Mar 28, 2011 | 12:57 PM

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MrBonus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bpmurr

Can you send me a list? I'd like to go and at least watch for now. I'm very hesitant to run it on any kind of track at the moment because of my experience with my 2010 GT500 and warranty support.

I usually run with these groups:

https://www.trackdaze.com/
http://www.scda1.com/

Since my car's production isn't scheduled (supposed to be a 2Q car), I don't have my personal schedule together yet. Once I have an arrival date, I'll certainly let you know. I'll almost certainly be at the very last Summit Point Shenandoah event in October with Track Daze. I can give you a ride as a passenger if you'd like.

Mar 28, 2011 | 01:05 PM

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cloud9

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USMC0341

What a great line up of Mustangs!

Right on!

I saw someone post on a Camaro forum complaining about Ford launching yet another Mustang. Funny thing was the next post was about how they wished Chevy would put out something to compete with them

My hats off to Ford. I'm VERY impressed with what they've done to transform the GT500 from a boulevard cruiser into a performance car from the factory.

Mar 28, 2011 | 01:06 PM

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5 DOT 0

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I did some further checking and they ran the Streets course, much slower than the 9 turns of Willow. See the links below.

Click on the map to see both courses:

http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/...ation/maps.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willow_...torsports_Park

Apr 4, 2011 | 07:52 PM

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BOSS is incredible, I readed the article, and for the money the GT. About the tires, they mentioned that they like better the tires of the GT500 and after those the one's in the GT. The mayor complain in all articles about the GT500 is the shifter. When FORD is going to fix that?, And also improve the brakes of the BOSS to have a great machine. I wonder how it will compare with the Corvette Grand Sport, I can wait to see them side to side on the track.

Apr 4, 2011 | 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by M3hunter

There hasn't been a good shifter in a Stang from the factory since the original 70/71 Boss cars rolled off the line with a Hurst.

Apr 4, 2011 | 09:10 PM

#33

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With only a five second difference and without all the upgrades the best car was the V6. It's amazing what Ford has done with the Mustang. They've nailed it.