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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
late model restoration sells the brembo fronts for $90 each. Way better price.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...nt-Brake-Rotor
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT
late model restoration sells the brembo fronts for $90 each. Way better price.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...nt-Brake-Rotor
Is there any difference between those and the OEM Brembos I posted?
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
Is there any difference between those and the OEM Brembos I posted?
The ones I posted are made by Centric, not Ford OEM parts.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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Right the ones I posted are Brembos.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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I ordered a complete set of OEM rotors (front and rears) for $308 plus shipping. I got them from http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/ and they have online ordering.

Front - $109.98 ea. and rears at 43.98 ea.

Going the cheap route this year and upgrade next year.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
Wayyyy better than that knuckle busting cube. Just remove the top bolt from the slide pin and rotate the caliper with the lower bolt in place and you have all the leverage you need for the tool. Turns in smooth and easy.
It took me several tries to finally figure out about the rotation part, but mostly cause the super cheap one I got from Autozone (or Amazon?) didn't actually lock up and rotate -- didn't know it needed to! And wouldn't say it turns in smoothly, it takes just a bit of cranking, at least my left rear does.

Do the stock ones with the two pistons have this same screw-in feature?
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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After doing some research I am going with the following:

Stillen J-hook rotors front and rear
SS brake lines
AP Racing 608 fluid

I am not 100% certain on pads. I called Hawk and was told DTC30 front and HP plus rear for my application (heavy track duty and light street duty) as well. Yes the best setup is to have a street setup and a track setup. I have a lot going on at the end of the month and beginning of August and don't want to be swapping back and forth as much as I would have to. I am also going to remove the rear brake dust shield as recommended in the Boss supplement guide.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
It took me several tries to finally figure out about the rotation part, but mostly cause the super cheap one I got from Autozone (or Amazon?) didn't actually lock up and rotate -- didn't know it needed to! And wouldn't say it turns in smoothly, it takes just a bit of cranking, at least my left rear does.

Do the stock ones with the two pistons have this same screw-in feature?
The rears are single piston and need to be screwed in and the fronts are four piston and just push in so there are no stock two piston calipers. Were yo referring to the front Brembo four pistons?

Yes it takes some cranking but with the tool locked in its not bad especially once it starts turning.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
The rears are single piston and need to be screwed in and the fronts are four piston and just push in so there are no stock two piston calipers. Were yo referring to the front Brembo four pistons?

Yes it takes some cranking but with the tool locked in its not bad especially once it starts turning.
Next time I will leave the one bolt in but I did not find mine hard to turn at all. It is not like I could twist them with my fingers but I have seen much worse.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
The rears are single piston and need to be screwed in and the fronts are four piston and just push in so there are no stock two piston calipers. Were yo referring to the front Brembo four pistons?
Woops, forgot this was the 'Boss' section -- meant the standard two piston GT calipers. The Brembo are fairly similar to my StopTech from what I've seen on several of the GT500s. I've always been interested in pad size difference among the various front 4 piston designs, though. Someone mentioned the stock pad Ford uses in the Brembos is actually undersized, that it can hold a larger pad?

I just found the screw-in part odd, but believe it's to avoid pad knock-back on the rear axle?
Same design as on my '06 S4, though...
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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The screw in is for the rear parking brake. No parking brake on the front no screw in.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by adam81
After doing some research I am going with the following:

Stillen J-hook rotors front and rear
Hmmm, never heard of them before. Please keep us updated and let us know how long they last and if you have any problems with them.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 908ssp
The screw in is for the rear parking brake. No parking brake on the front no screw in.
I like the setup on Ford trucks where there are shoes inside the rotor, quite ingenious. Wonder why the don't use them on cars?
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Brake shoes inside the "hats" of the rear disc brake rotors were used by GM when they introduced disc brakes to the Corvette line in 1965.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Didn't know any of that stuff...now I do!

The J hook is I believe AP's version of slotting

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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by P0 Corsa
Brake shoes inside the "hats" of the rear disc brake rotors were used by GM when they introduced disc brakes to the Corvette line in 1965.
Originally Posted by 2012YellowBoss
I like the setup on Ford trucks where there are shoes inside the rotor, quite ingenious. Wonder why the don't use them on cars?
They are also used on the 05-10 LX-platform Dodge/Chry. cars (Charger, Magnum, 300 and the LC-Challenger), I don't know if they still use them on the new '11 models. They were a PITA! They barely held the car on a hill, if at all, and the pad material would often separate from the backing plate and rattle/sqeak. Occasionally the loose pad would even cause a wheel to lock-up! I like the cable system using the disk brake MUCH better! More effective, and much easier to adjust and work on.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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The J hook is a great design. They can be found on cars in the top echelons of racing. I have a GT-R and this is THE design everyone is running for the track. I was excited to see they are available from stillen. I will report how they perform. I have four track days coming up so I should have good data....
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
Yes and if you don't you can get a caliper locked up. Ask me how It's actually really easy with the tool from Harbor Freight.

http://www.harborfreight.com/18-piec...kit-97143.html
We really need to put a moratorium on posts like this First off I have no idea why I am putting brakes on a car that has 1000 miles on the clock but now this post not only cost me for the brake tools it cost another two hundred fifty bucks worth of tools I could not pass by at the store today

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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012YellowBoss

We really need to put a moratorium on posts like this
HAHAHA! I agree. But I have to point out that my first aftermarket purchase for my Boss was 2 sets of restrictor plate replacements. Who started that? (They are a great imvestment)
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Hate to break it to you guys, but tracking the car is an expensive hobby. It will eat your disposable income quickly. You have been warned.
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