Boss 302 on the Speed Channel this coming Monday night at 10:00 p.m.
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I've been drag racing for 28 years and beg to differ. The best launches that result in the best ET's and trap speeds involve just a tad bit of wheelspin to get the motor into its peak powerband quicker. Too much tirespin is obviously bad, but zero tirespin isn't ideal either.
I was finally able to watch the program today at lunch. So with my HDDVR and my 60" 1080p LCD I was able to get a good look at those color boards for the Boss.
For 2012 they showed all the colors they have including showing the CO and Race Red with the white and black stripe. Curiously they also showed the yellow blaze with both a white and black stripe.
But for 2013 I could actually read the names of the colors off to the left and they are grabber green, grabber blue, race red, grabber orange, and performance white. The LS was performance white and black both with yellow stripes and wheel accents. Which if possible is actually more over the top than the current 2012 LS offering.
For 2012 they showed all the colors they have including showing the CO and Race Red with the white and black stripe. Curiously they also showed the yellow blaze with both a white and black stripe.
But for 2013 I could actually read the names of the colors off to the left and they are grabber green, grabber blue, race red, grabber orange, and performance white. The LS was performance white and black both with yellow stripes and wheel accents. Which if possible is actually more over the top than the current 2012 LS offering.
But I'm still so stuck between a GB Street Boss (way more awesome color) and the limited LS. Oh well. I only have approximately 12 months to figure it out. Better get started!
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I'm gonna start saving my pennies now for the Grabber Green. Grabber green with black accents like they showed is just too much for me to resist. It would be nice if it was a Boss exclusive color, but they didn't do that this year so I won't hold my breath.
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2013 Laguna Sega's will be available in Ebony and Performance White both with Yellow Blaze Stripes and wheel inserts...
The Blue is a pearlesent grabber color like the Green...
I dig the green
The Blue is a pearlesent grabber color like the Green...
I dig the green
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With the show showing what might possibly come for 2013 I'm thinking many folks are going to be a bit confused. Should they get the 2012 or wait for 2013? The green Boss with hockey stick stripes was very good looking.
I was a little disappointed that they didn't give any performance numbers or times. Maybe this was just to keep GM and Dodge in the dark a little bit longer?
I was a little disappointed that they didn't give any performance numbers or times. Maybe this was just to keep GM and Dodge in the dark a little bit longer?
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Disappointed when compared to what everyone thought it was going to bring to the table.
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I've been drag racing for 28 years and beg to differ. The best launches that result in the best ET's and trap speeds involve just a tad bit of wheelspin to get the motor into its peak powerband quicker. Too much tirespin is obviously bad, but zero tirespin isn't ideal either.
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+1! It was sexy!
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Whammer, I do not argue just for the sake of argument. I personally do not want a launch control that eliminates any and all tirespin and I tried to explain to you why that's not the route to go. I am telling you from nearly 3 decades of drag racing experience that you want just a tad bit of tirespin for the most ideal launch. Walk around the pits at any dragstrip and ask around and you'll find that my opinion is shared by most.
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Let the magazines test production cars and give us the stats. Let the actual customers who buy them share their #'s with us from their own empirical track data. That's exactly what happened with the 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L's. Ford never gave us performance data, yet plenty of magazines, websites, and forum posters chimed in with all of the data we could ever want. I trust the same will happen with the Boss 302.
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Why is there a blanket assumption that the TracKey doesn't add any power? No one has said that yet. I find it really hard to believe that it's a totally different (and more aggressive) tune, yet NO POWER was added. C'mon now.
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watched this last night with my parents, the whole time my mother was going on saying how Parnelli Jones use to sweep my grandfathers autoshop when he was a kid, i dont know if my mother is going insane or not, but it could be true since at my grandfathers funeral there was a huge flower arraingment from him next to him.
BUT OH MY GOD!
the boss is so bada$$ looking, im still a little iffy on the strange colors (black w/red roof) but i guess that makes it standout more when its gonna be infront of every Camaro
BUT OH MY GOD!
the boss is so bada$$ looking, im still a little iffy on the strange colors (black w/red roof) but i guess that makes it standout more when its gonna be infront of every Camaro
Most likely, yes! How awesome is that! Ford is finally expanding their palete (sp?) to a more broad and appropriate selection, specific to Mustang, and even more so, specific to certain models!
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It's been mentioned that the TracKey also increases low-end torque, not necessarily peak torque.
As far as there being no mechanical differences between the LS and a base Boss with the optional Torsen diff, the LS has different rear springs and stabilizer bar, cross brace along with post purchase installed brake ducts and front splitter. The adjustable suspension settings are more aggressive than the base adjustable settings. LS has Pirelli Corsas on slightly wider wheels than the Boss' Pirelli PZeros. The LS weighs a smidge more.
Who knows what else I've left out.
As far as there being no mechanical differences between the LS and a base Boss with the optional Torsen diff, the LS has different rear springs and stabilizer bar, cross brace along with post purchase installed brake ducts and front splitter. The adjustable suspension settings are more aggressive than the base adjustable settings. LS has Pirelli Corsas on slightly wider wheels than the Boss' Pirelli PZeros. The LS weighs a smidge more.
Who knows what else I've left out.
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It's been mentioned that the TracKey also increases low-end torque, not necessarily peak torque.
As far as there being no mechanical differences between the LS and a base Boss with the optional Torsen diff, the LS has different rear springs and stabilizer bar, cross brace along with post purchase installed brake ducts and front splitter. The adjustable suspension settings are more aggressive than the base adjustable settings. LS has Pirelli Corsas on slightly wider wheels than the Boss' Pirelli PZeros. The LS weighs a smidge more.
Who knows what else I've left out.
As far as there being no mechanical differences between the LS and a base Boss with the optional Torsen diff, the LS has different rear springs and stabilizer bar, cross brace along with post purchase installed brake ducts and front splitter. The adjustable suspension settings are more aggressive than the base adjustable settings. LS has Pirelli Corsas on slightly wider wheels than the Boss' Pirelli PZeros. The LS weighs a smidge more.
Who knows what else I've left out.
Sounds spot-on, structural-wise. I'm looking forward to seeing how much better the R-Compound tires will be over the "standard" PZeros.
@PTRocks: Oh yes. That too. Real guages. Duh.
@PTRocks: Oh yes. That too. Real guages. Duh.
Last edited by Ice Hawk; Nov 23, 2010 at 07:47 PM.