2012-2013 BOSS 302

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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aftermarket lowering springs or other suspension components...?

Anyone know of a company that produces lowering springs that are tuned for the Boss and more specifically the Laguna Seca? They need to perform on the track as well as lower the car. I am not looking for something that is only good for the looks...

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Most of Steeda's parts are tuned for the track. I am not sure if they are tuned for the boss but I know they are manufactured for the street and the track.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...874/index.html

Or even the sport springs will provide a nice ride for the Boss.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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I do not know of any vendors that stock boss-specific springs yet.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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I haven't heard of any yet either hence the question to all those "in the know". I just want to lower the car for appearance reasons, but the handling must not be sacrificed. Of course if it is improved.....great!
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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I'm sure it's definitely possible to lower the car and improve the handling vs. the factory setup, however it would be at the expense of ride comfort, most likely.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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I had MRT install the H&R sport springs in my LS.It looks great handles as good or better.The ride is only slightly stiffer.Be sure and remember if you install lowered springs you need to replace the factory panhard bar with an adjustable one .Scott was an engineer at Ford for 19 years and designed many suspensions so I feel he is pretty reliable in his suggestions.He carries other brands but these were highly reccommended.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by txclyde1
I had MRT install the H&R sport springs in my LS.It looks great handles as good or better.The ride is only slightly stiffer.Be sure and remember if you install lowered springs you need to replace the factory panhard bar with an adjustable one .Scott was an engineer at Ford for 19 years and designed many suspensions so I feel he is pretty reliable in his suggestions.He carries other brands but these were highly reccommended.
I was just talking to one of those guys today at MRT about some suspension solutions to what I want. I believe his name was Jason or maybe it was Scott...?? They mentioned a customer of their's had some work done
to his LS that tracks a ton. Would you be him.....??? If so please PM me...
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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I installed a set of Steeda Sports. I can't really say that it has diminished ride feel at all. I am still curious about it's function on the track vs. stock. Generally I am happy with the way they made the Boss look and drive.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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Has anyone lowered their car with the transmission scoop installed? I wonder if that would become problematically low.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Can someone post pictures of the before and after look of the car?

Thanks!
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by adam81
Anyone know of a company that produces lowering springs that are tuned for the Boss and more specifically the Laguna Seca? They need to perform on the track as well as lower the car. I am not looking for something that is only good for the looks...
I found this interesting:
"Engineers experimented with numerous ride heights but discovered that lowering the car 11mm at the front and 1mm at the rear provided the best combination of handling. Vehicle integration engineers Kevin Groot and Nick Del Zio tried lowering the rear another 7mm but found that the car did not turn as well due to the rear suspension geometry.

"The car looks better when it's lower in the rear, but it just doesn't turn as well," said Groot.
"And we always prioritize turning"
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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I am assuming that is with every thing else in the suspension stock. The 302s sits much lower but yes it has a completely different setup for the suspension. I want to lower the car but change as few parts as possible and improve lap times. A spring and swaybar kit should do this. Any company out there want to make some money?
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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Unless you are going for appearance only, be very cautious about changing the suspension pieces on a track-designed car like the Boss. Remember that Ford literally has hundreds of engineers working just suspensions/handling. It is tough (but not necessarily impossible) for an aftermarket company to come up with something better for the track, unless the car was not designed for the track to begin with (such as with a regular GT). I will say that my FULLY track prepped 95 Cobra R did NOT handle as well as my Boss does. It did brake better though, probably due to lighter weight.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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lowering

Racecraft.com has drop spindles for the front
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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I say call and talk to Sam Strano if any one know he will he test tons of springs on his mustang http://www.stranoparts.com/ he been racing in SCCA with mustang for years .
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by StillIntense
Unless you are going for appearance only, be very cautious about changing the suspension pieces on a track-designed car like the Boss. Remember that Ford literally has hundreds of engineers working just suspensions/handling. It is tough (but not necessarily impossible) for an aftermarket company to come up with something better for the track, unless the car was not designed for the track to begin with (such as with a regular GT). I will say that my FULLY track prepped 95 Cobra R did NOT handle as well as my Boss does. It did brake better though, probably due to lighter weight.
I will disagree with that statement. The Boss was not designed as a race car, it is a street car that can be taken to the track with minor mods. (sort of like my GT3) The Boss is high, lacking in camber on the front, relatively softly sprung, compliant suspension bushings and has, at best, mid grade shocks. Lots of room for improvement IF you feel it is necessary for your enjoyment.

Peter
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Yep- besides Sam, I'd contact Gus at Steeda and the guy we have from Roush on here (sorry, forgot his name.) Get advice from all of 'em!
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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You guys are entering the slippery slope. Lowering springs with a higher spring rate won't be matched to the Tokico's on the car (compression, rebound or travel) which can / will lead to accelerated damper wear (or out-right break them) and degraded ride quality.

You ideally want to focus on a set of dampers, then tune the car to work the way you want with the damper and changing spring rates. Then, fine-tune the car with a set of adjustable sway bars and end-links.

If my budget allows, I will be working with AST-USA / Moton - USA next season (and Strano for bars) to see what I can do. I've had good luck with these vendors and they offer great products.

the slope continues with tire selection, bushing selection, etc as these all effect spring rate, grip, stiction, etc

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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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i cant lower my car, the collector for the headers already scrapes on speed bumps. i think the only thing i would do for the car would be koni sport shocks. at full stiff the street boss dampers lack enough damping to control the car on some sections of my home track. ECR has a fast back straight for a technical track where i can hit 125-130 and right before the brake point the pavement has some ripples and makes the front end of the car bounce or porpoise as the instructor called it. not something you want to feel at 125mph.

ive seen sam on more than one occasion steer people away form fancy coil overs to steeda sport springs and koni yellows. iirc that is the set up he won one of his championships on. i can say that the steeda sport and koni yellow combo is awesome for street driving, had it on my 10 gt and it rode better than stock. the only downside is with all the adjustment from the screw type adjuster on those yellows its very hard to figure out where you have them set at any given time without going back full soft and tweaking.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Ahh yes the slippery slope how well I know that. Open checkbook and $$$$$$ but it is good for the economy. . My order is for handling

1. Correct alignment with adequate camber
2. Decide on biggest square setup I can run
3. Sway bars to tune for square setup handling
Now it gets expensive and complicated and I have a full track car for that.

Peter
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