2012-2013 BOSS 302

2012 Mustang Boss 302 or 2012 Mustang GT Premium?

Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by speedrx
I think it is fantastic that Ford is giving everyone so many options:
  • Mustang V6
  • Mustang V6 Conv't
  • Mustang GT V8
  • Mustang GT V8 Conv't
  • Mustang Boss 302 & LS
  • Mustang Shelby GT500
  • Mustang Shelby GT500 Conv't
  • Performance & Premium packages
Tons of performance and custom options available from both Ford and aftermarket (go see SEMA sometime).

Just about anyone can put together a Mustang like they want it, budget and use ultimately determining what they choose.

I originally wanted the Boss because it was new and exciting, I have talked to several dealers about ordering one, and I still may end up with one. After considering use (street vs track), I am now leaning towards GT Premium with 6sp, brembo, and 3.73 and a lot of features I want like Sync, roof, premium sound, HID's, securty system, etc. I would upgrade exhaust, and probably tweak handling & performance to get closer to the Boss. I am thinking low end torque will be more usable to me than high RPM HP.

Still debating the Boss vs. GT Premuim.....great to have choices!
Great point and unlike the Corvette or Camaro, they actually look distinctly different.
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by speedrx
Just about anyone can put together a Mustang like they want it, budget and use ultimately determining what they choose.
Agree!

Originally Posted by speedrx
I am thinking low end torque will be more usable to me than high RPM HP.
I believe in around-town driving, this is very true.

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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by speedrx
I am thinking low end torque will be more usable to me than high RPM HP.
To make your decision even harder (LOL) - the red key increases low-end torque. How much is anyone's guess.

No matter what you decide on getting, you're going to end up with a big smile every time you go driving, or just look at it in the garage

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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FAFP90
To make your decision even harder (LOL) - the red key increases low-end torque. How much is anyone's guess.
I thought I read somewhere it was 10 lb-ft.
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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I thought I read somewhere it was 10 lb-ft.
How would that compare to the GT down low?
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FAFP90
How would that compare to the GT down low?

It's the same.
The GT is 390ft. lbs. and the Boss is 380, the Red Key boosts it to 390.
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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I don't think the TracKey affects peak torque
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Evil
I don't think the TracKey affects peak torque
Yup, Ford only mentioned low end.
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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torque is lower because of the new cams profile to give higher hp, however the engine will be under rated so who knows what the real numbers will be. Ford says it`s the quickest mustang ever offered so

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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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What would adding the Ford SC do to the HP & Torque numbers on the GT 5.0? Has anyone installed one on the GT and can share their experience?
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Evil
I don't think the TracKey affects peak torque

What am I missing here? Ford gave torque increases for the TracKey and it was 10 more ft. lbs.
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by speedrx
What would adding the Ford SC do to the HP & Torque numbers on the GT 5.0? Has anyone installed one on the GT and can share their experience?
600 HP at the flywheel.

http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
600 HP at the flywheel.

http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/
Wow!
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
What am I missing here? Ford gave torque increases for the TracKey and it was 10 more ft. lbs.
They said at low rpm but peak remains 380
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by speedrx
The new Boss 302 looks like an exciting car and I give kudo's to Ford for developing it and bring it to market. I had some random thoughts about the Boss vs. the GT Premium for street/everyday use.

The Boss was developed as a car for the track, it has stiffened suspension, big brakes, engine built to produce power at high RPMs, muffler bypass, TracKey etc. It has a restricted list of options, mostly focused on performance over comfort. Incredible performance vehicle but comes at a premium and little chance to get it below MSRP.

I would assume the majority of regular Boss buyers are not racing their cars, making major mods, or taking them to tracks (LS buyers would be a difference story). Would modding the Boss effect its value in the future?

The GT Premium 5.0 with 6sp and brembo brake package offers a lot of performance but also a long list of options that many would appreciate in everyday use - Sync system with Nav & Hands-free, glass roof (or convertible), leather, upgraded sound system, MyColor, etc. Great car right out of the box and you could easily add some things to improve handing and peformance, even add Recaro seats should you want them.

In a lot of cases, you can get a great deal on a "regular" Mustang, invoice or below.

Again, just some random thoughts and opening it up for discussion. Different cars for different markets. How are people planning to use their Boss, daily commute, weekend driving, or for track use? Would a well equiped GT make a better everyday/weekend car? What kind of GT could you put together for the $45K cost of a Boss?

I do not plan to race mine on the track, just looking for a great weekend car with some daily commuting - now Boss or GT?
Coming from an owner of a red 2011 Mustang GT Brembo w. 3.73 gear. If you really want to race go for the BOSS if not stick with the GT Brembo you will still have a great time. If I had to do it back again I will had chosen the BOSS but I like to race. From the looks I prefer my car (except for those great Recaro seats on the BOSS. At this time I'm going to mod. my car with KONI STR.T + Steeda sports for improved handling.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Serious about racing and handling?

Originally Posted by M3hunter
Coming from an owner of a red 2011 Mustang GT Brembo w. 3.73 gear. If you really want to race go for the BOSS if not stick with the GT Brembo you will still have a great time. If I had to do it back again I will had chosen the BOSS but I like to race. From the looks I prefer my car (except for those great Recaro seats on the BOSS. At this time I'm going to mod. my car with KONI STR.T + Steeda sports for improved handling.
If your serious about racing and handling, add a Watts Link suspension. I had one on my 2001, its awesome! It improves high speed cornering significantly. Of course the 2001 did not have a Panhard bar and the 2011 does. Check it out! http://www.fays2.net/fays2_watts_link_22_.html
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