2012 Mustang Boss 302 or 2012 Mustang GT Premium?
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I am not either. Just looking for validation of the assumption. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any actual numbers from Ford on the build. I've seen speculation of 750 split between 12 & 13, 500 per MY, 750 per MY and as 1% of Mustang build..... Can you clarify the numbers?
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It's puzzling that they would limit the LS to the small quantities that have been reported. If they spent the amount of R&D to test the LS components that they contend, how do they recoup the cost on such a limited run?
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More fuel for the FIRE!!
Leaked: Ford Mustang Boss 302 Production Limited To 8,000 Over 2 Years
http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...0-over-2-years
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Leaked: Ford Mustang Boss 302 Production Limited To 8,000 Over 2 Years
http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...0-over-2-years
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More fuel for the FIRE!!
Leaked: Ford Mustang Boss 302 Production Limited To 8,000 Over 2 Years
http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...0-over-2-years
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Leaked: Ford Mustang Boss 302 Production Limited To 8,000 Over 2 Years
http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...0-over-2-years
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That was a "whoopsie" on Amazon's part, and the entry was taken down quickly!
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Yeah, that article is dated 13-Sep, which around the time one could go look on Amazon.com and see an entry for John Clor's book on the Boss 302, where it proclaimed the 4000 per year for 2 years, with 1000 of them being the LS over 2 years.
That was a "whoopsie" on Amazon's part, and the entry was taken down quickly!
That was a "whoopsie" on Amazon's part, and the entry was taken down quickly!
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Those who are interested in getting a Boss should secure it by ordering if possible. The dealers which order the Boss without a buyer will be the ones asking over MSRP making it harder to work out a reasonable deal. Eventually they too will be more receptive but only when the demand levels off but if they succeed it will be a long wait.
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The supercharger would add weight to the front. That weight then has to be managed. I think it is difficult to conclude that more power would provide a performance gain in terms of road course laptimes. Surely it would provide an advantage in a straightaway. However, one has to also manage the extra power in the rear as well. It would prove for an interesting comparison.
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The supercharger would add weight to the front. That weight then has to be managed. I think it is difficult to conclude that more power would provide a performance gain in terms of road course laptimes. Surely it would provide an advantage in a straightaway. However, one has to also manage the extra power in the rear as well. It would prove for an interesting comparison.
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Also keep in mind that ultimately it's not about the lap times but the experience and feel. The boss will have a much different power delivery, sound and balance vs a supercharged mustang.
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Certainly, my HIDs in my Bullitt, the Shaker 1000 and the fact that it's just **** near paid for, are three items that I will miss a great deal. Since I'm not a rich man, this will be my DD. Hard choices.
In the end, my time behind a steering wheel is the time when I am at my happiest. I think that all three cars would make me happy. I think that the Boss 302 is the more "serious" car of the three. Much as the 69-70 B2 was more of an enthusiast's car than the plush 69-70 Shelby (which involved probably as much of CS's imput as the current rig) and the original 68 GT 390 car was an understeering pig.
In the end. what's important to you? I guess I'm going to fall on the side of the poor stereo and the 7.5k N/A scream and the neutral weight distribution and then on some days, miss my good stereo....
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Those are vital questions for me. I'm not sure that I like the whine of the GT500 car and the short redline. I do like some of the luxo optiions, and the fact that I can find a low mileage used 2010 for the same price as a B2. I love the idea of 500-550 horsepower. I love the Shelby, esp. the cars that are sans stripes, but from all the videos that I've seen, I don't like the fact that about the time they seem spooled up, things are boucing off rev limiters.
Certainly, my HIDs in my Bullitt, the Shaker 1000 and the fact that it's just **** near paid for, are three items that I will miss a great deal. Since I'm not a rich man, this will be my DD. Hard choices.
In the end, my time behind a steering wheel is the time when I am at my happiest. I think that all three cars would make me happy. I think that the Boss 302 is the more "serious" car of the three. Much as the 69-70 B2 was more of an enthusiast's car than the plush 69-70 Shelby (which involved probably as much of CS's imput as the current rig) and the original 68 GT 390 car was an understeering pig.
In the end. what's important to you? I guess I'm going to fall on the side of the poor stereo and the 7.5k N/A scream and the neutral weight distribution and then on some days, miss my good stereo....
Certainly, my HIDs in my Bullitt, the Shaker 1000 and the fact that it's just **** near paid for, are three items that I will miss a great deal. Since I'm not a rich man, this will be my DD. Hard choices.
In the end, my time behind a steering wheel is the time when I am at my happiest. I think that all three cars would make me happy. I think that the Boss 302 is the more "serious" car of the three. Much as the 69-70 B2 was more of an enthusiast's car than the plush 69-70 Shelby (which involved probably as much of CS's imput as the current rig) and the original 68 GT 390 car was an understeering pig.
In the end. what's important to you? I guess I'm going to fall on the side of the poor stereo and the 7.5k N/A scream and the neutral weight distribution and then on some days, miss my good stereo....
I suggested that they just get a GT with the options they wanted and then added the Brembo brake package, the 3.73 gears and then put a SC on it and they would have the car they wanted with tons of performance.
I suppose it's human nature to champion the car/model that you have but I get a bit tired of everyone tearing down other people's cars- pointing out all of their shortcomings while failing to see the shortcomings in their preferred model. The Boss is not so far beyond a GT that a GT with a SC putting out 525hp isn't going to give it a serious challenge. I don't really care about the track, but I think it would be pretty close, but on the street the Boss will get owned, despite the Red Key.
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Ummm, we were talking about a GT with a SC added. Someone posted that they weren't sure they wanted the Boss because they really wanted a glass roof.
I suggested that they just get a GT with the options they wanted and then added the Brembo brake package, the 3.73 gears and then put a SC on it and they would have the car they wanted with tons of performance.
I suppose it's human nature to champion the car/model that you have but I get a bit tired of everyone tearing down other people's cars- pointing out all of their shortcomings while failing to see the shortcomings in their preferred model. The Boss is not so far beyond a GT that a GT with a SC putting out 525hp isn't going to give it a serious challenge. I don't really care about the track, but I think it would be pretty close, but on the street the Boss will get owned, despite the Red Key.
I suggested that they just get a GT with the options they wanted and then added the Brembo brake package, the 3.73 gears and then put a SC on it and they would have the car they wanted with tons of performance.
I suppose it's human nature to champion the car/model that you have but I get a bit tired of everyone tearing down other people's cars- pointing out all of their shortcomings while failing to see the shortcomings in their preferred model. The Boss is not so far beyond a GT that a GT with a SC putting out 525hp isn't going to give it a serious challenge. I don't really care about the track, but I think it would be pretty close, but on the street the Boss will get owned, despite the Red Key.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWpoY...eature=related
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Dave, lets be logical for a minute. You are an avid Mustang enthusiast with personal preferences, no different than many other members, with plans to upgrade an already great car which I believe the membership has offered nothing but support, no rain on your parade. I believe the guys dreaming of the Boss are seeking what you have been able to realize, the perfect Mustang for your taste.
It would a more pleasant experience for all to support their turn and share their joy as many others have for you, I, and countless others.
It would a more pleasant experience for all to support their turn and share their joy as many others have for you, I, and countless others.
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Dave, lets be logical for a minute. You are an avid Mustang enthusiast with personal preferences, no different than many other members, with plans to upgrade an already great car which I believe the membership has offered nothing but support, no rain on your parade. I believe the guys dreaming of the Boss are seeking what you have been able to realize, the perfect Mustang for your taste.
It would a more pleasant experience for all to support their turn and share their joy as many others have for you, I, and countless others.
It would a more pleasant experience for all to support their turn and share their joy as many others have for you, I, and countless others.
I do share their joy, but this thread was started by someone comparing the Boss and the GT. Several people who posted were saying they were considering a GT and a few people have made it seem like it's the "lesser" car. A few performance mods and all these cars are pretty much in the same class.
I don't think we need to bash someone's personal choice/preference because it may be different than our own. Why make someone looking to buy a GT feel like it's a bad choice?
I'm sure V6 owners know what I'm talking about all too well.
I probably could've been more tactful, so I apologize for not being.
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I do not own a Shelby or a 2012 Boss Mustang. I'm also not exactly seeing where I was "tearing down other people's cars." Where did you get that from? Because I said that i'm not a huge fan of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWpoY...eature=related
I love the Shelbys, and have been seriously considering purchasing a used one for awhile now. However, I think that if finances permit, I'm going to make the sacrifices to put a 12 B2 in the garage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWpoY...eature=related
I love the Shelbys, and have been seriously considering purchasing a used one for awhile now. However, I think that if finances permit, I'm going to make the sacrifices to put a 12 B2 in the garage.
Dean,
My post was not directed at you per se. My reply to you was just to clarify that were were discussing the Boss vs. a GT. The 2nd paragraph in my reply was not directed at you at all and was just stating my general feeling with how things seem to go.
As for the SC whine....I wasn't sure I would be a big fan of it either but once had one you'll find it's tough to give up.
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I think it is fantastic that Ford is giving everyone so many options:
Just about anyone can put together a Mustang like they want it, budget and use ultimately determining what they choose.
I originally wanted the Boss because it was new and exciting, I have talked to several dealers about ordering one, and I still may end up with one. After considering use (street vs track), I am now leaning towards GT Premium with 6sp, brembo, and 3.73 and a lot of features I want like Sync, roof, premium sound, HID's, securty system, etc. I would upgrade exhaust, and probably tweak handling & performance to get closer to the Boss. I am thinking low end torque will be more usable to me than high RPM HP.
Still debating the Boss vs. GT Premuim.....great to have choices!
- Mustang V6
- Mustang V6 Conv't
- Mustang GT V8
- Mustang GT V8 Conv't
- Mustang Boss 302 & LS
- Mustang Shelby GT500
- Mustang Shelby GT500 Conv't
- Performance & Premium packages
Just about anyone can put together a Mustang like they want it, budget and use ultimately determining what they choose.
I originally wanted the Boss because it was new and exciting, I have talked to several dealers about ordering one, and I still may end up with one. After considering use (street vs track), I am now leaning towards GT Premium with 6sp, brembo, and 3.73 and a lot of features I want like Sync, roof, premium sound, HID's, securty system, etc. I would upgrade exhaust, and probably tweak handling & performance to get closer to the Boss. I am thinking low end torque will be more usable to me than high RPM HP.
Still debating the Boss vs. GT Premuim.....great to have choices!
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