What are some improvements you want to see in the NEXT GEN redesign?
Thats probably a long way off when you consider even BMW still uses a mac strut on the 3 series cars. Even GM reverted to a mac strut on the current Camaro (the 4th gen had an SLA) and as long as the Mustang is a unibody car with no sub-frames, I doubt you'll see the strut (in this case or shock in an SLA) towers go the way of the dodo as well.
The strut towers aren't really a big problem since the engine bay is designed to accomodate a very wide engine, they might make header installation a pain, but its not all that better in a car that doesn't have them since wheel wells are still there.
The strut towers aren't really a big problem since the engine bay is designed to accomodate a very wide engine, they might make header installation a pain, but its not all that better in a car that doesn't have them since wheel wells are still there.
Last edited by bob; Jun 29, 2010 at 09:10 AM.
Yeah, the front struts seem to work quite well and as noted, BMW uses them to excellent effect, so I would put replacing them well behind updating the neolithic lively axle, a component design far more in need of updating.
As for engine bay size, I think the current is more than large enough as it already is capable of housing a 550hp motor. Rather than up-sizing engines and power in the future, I think, rather, Ford should downsize and lighten the Stang, which, given upcoming emissions and economy standards, will likely be the only way to go anyway.
As for engine bay size, I think the current is more than large enough as it already is capable of housing a 550hp motor. Rather than up-sizing engines and power in the future, I think, rather, Ford should downsize and lighten the Stang, which, given upcoming emissions and economy standards, will likely be the only way to go anyway.
Thats probably a long way off when you consider even BMW still uses a mac strut on the 3 series cars. Even GM reverted to a mac strut on the current Camaro (the 4th gen had an SLA) and as long as the Mustang is a unibody car with no sub-frames, I doubt you'll see the strut (in this case or shock in an SLA) towers go the way of the dodo as well.
The strut towers aren't really a big problem since the engine bay is designed to accomodate a very wide engine, they might make header installation a pain, but its not all that better in a car that doesn't have them since wheel wells are still there.
The strut towers aren't really a big problem since the engine bay is designed to accomodate a very wide engine, they might make header installation a pain, but its not all that better in a car that doesn't have them since wheel wells are still there.
Last edited by Brewman; Jul 8, 2010 at 06:59 AM.
V8 is absolute requirement.
Less weight, of course. Smaller wouldn't hurt either.
Get it off the stilts, lower profile rubber and push the (wider) wheels out so the first mod isn't replacing the springs and wheels. Look at basically any other sporting car for an example, Ford.
Oh and the driver's memory seat would be very nice.
Keyless entry, push button start.
Keep the glass roof.
Don't screw the good folks who buy the '14 by adding 100 HP to the '15.
Less weight, of course. Smaller wouldn't hurt either.
Get it off the stilts, lower profile rubber and push the (wider) wheels out so the first mod isn't replacing the springs and wheels. Look at basically any other sporting car for an example, Ford.
Oh and the driver's memory seat would be very nice.
Keyless entry, push button start.
Keep the glass roof.
Don't screw the good folks who buy the '14 by adding 100 HP to the '15.
Last edited by WeinerDog; Jul 9, 2010 at 01:49 PM.
V8 is absolute requirement.
Less weight, of course. Smaller wouldn't hurt either.
Get it off the stilts, lower profile rubber and push the (wider) wheels out so the first mod isn't replacing the springs and wheels. Look at basically any other sporting car for an example, Ford.
Oh and the driver's memory seat would be very nice.
Keyless entry, push button start.
Keep the glass roof.
Don't screw the good folks who buy the '14 by adding 100 HP to the '15.
Less weight, of course. Smaller wouldn't hurt either.
Get it off the stilts, lower profile rubber and push the (wider) wheels out so the first mod isn't replacing the springs and wheels. Look at basically any other sporting car for an example, Ford.
Oh and the driver's memory seat would be very nice.
Keyless entry, push button start.
Keep the glass roof.
Don't screw the good folks who buy the '14 by adding 100 HP to the '15.

Its poor planning on Fords part, when a new engine lags a year behind a facelift or redesign.
Face it, the 5.0L should of been in the 2010 GT!
Kinda like those folks that bought the first I-phones. 6 months later it was Faster, Cheaper ahd had more options.

When you build anticipation like they did for the 2010 upgrading the engine in 2011 is like a dirty trick.
I'm always intrigued by the push button start requests, other than the "cool" factor, I really cant see an advantage to it? And the same with keyless entry (which I assume to be a proximity unlock rather than just pressing a button on the fob to unlock the vehicle).
I've used the push button system in a variety of cars (the S2000 still required a key to be turned before hitting the button to the vette which was a proximity system for the locks and ignition) and it seemed like a neat gadget for the first use, afterwhich it lost its appeal.
I supppose by going to keyless entry/start that eleminates the lock cylinders as a component failure, but I generally only see Honda and Toyota with these problems (mainly Honda) on cars that are less than 20 or 30 years old.
I've used the push button system in a variety of cars (the S2000 still required a key to be turned before hitting the button to the vette which was a proximity system for the locks and ignition) and it seemed like a neat gadget for the first use, afterwhich it lost its appeal.
I supppose by going to keyless entry/start that eleminates the lock cylinders as a component failure, but I generally only see Honda and Toyota with these problems (mainly Honda) on cars that are less than 20 or 30 years old.
I'm always intrigued by the push button start requests, other than the "cool" factor, I really cant see an advantage to it? And the same with keyless entry (which I assume to be a proximity unlock rather than just pressing a button on the fob to unlock the vehicle).
I've used the push button system in a variety of cars (the S2000 still required a key to be turned before hitting the button to the vette which was a proximity system for the locks and ignition) and it seemed like a neat gadget for the first use, afterwhich it lost its appeal.
I supppose by going to keyless entry/start that eleminates the lock cylinders as a component failure, but I generally only see Honda and Toyota with these problems (mainly Honda) on cars that are less than 20 or 30 years old.
I've used the push button system in a variety of cars (the S2000 still required a key to be turned before hitting the button to the vette which was a proximity system for the locks and ignition) and it seemed like a neat gadget for the first use, afterwhich it lost its appeal.
I supppose by going to keyless entry/start that eleminates the lock cylinders as a component failure, but I generally only see Honda and Toyota with these problems (mainly Honda) on cars that are less than 20 or 30 years old.
I'm interested in a Dual Clutch Transmission or a Semi Automatic Transmission.
Ecoboost V6
Continue to increase HP in the 5.0L
I'm a V8 guy! All I've owned are GT's. But, I would like to see a performance model V6. Ecoboost V6 350-400hp. Great Handling & Great Styling. MPG has to be near 30 or better. If not, why bother?
As for the styling of the Next Gen Stang, I am fine with a more modern look. Like we've seen in concept drawings and other concept cars. But, it must maintain some of the classic Mustang design cues.
Ecoboost V6
Continue to increase HP in the 5.0L
I'm a V8 guy! All I've owned are GT's. But, I would like to see a performance model V6. Ecoboost V6 350-400hp. Great Handling & Great Styling. MPG has to be near 30 or better. If not, why bother?
As for the styling of the Next Gen Stang, I am fine with a more modern look. Like we've seen in concept drawings and other concept cars. But, it must maintain some of the classic Mustang design cues.
An Ecoboost V6 with a DCT would make for an interesting and unique addition to the Mustang lineup -- a more high-tech, efficient, balanced approach than the existing V8 performance models -- maybe bring in even more previous import buyers to the fold, though that might require filling the last ***** in the Stang's armor, an IRS.
I'm interested in a Dual Clutch Transmission or a Semi Automatic Transmission.
Ecoboost V6
Continue to increase HP in the 5.0L
I'm a V8 guy! All I've owned are GT's. But, I would like to see a performance model V6. Ecoboost V6 350-400hp. Great Handling & Great Styling. MPG has to be near 30 or better. If not, why bother?
As for the styling of the Next Gen Stang, I am fine with a more modern look. Like we've seen in concept drawings and other concept cars. But, it must maintain some of the classic Mustang design cues.
Ecoboost V6
Continue to increase HP in the 5.0L
I'm a V8 guy! All I've owned are GT's. But, I would like to see a performance model V6. Ecoboost V6 350-400hp. Great Handling & Great Styling. MPG has to be near 30 or better. If not, why bother?
As for the styling of the Next Gen Stang, I am fine with a more modern look. Like we've seen in concept drawings and other concept cars. But, it must maintain some of the classic Mustang design cues.
I Remeber hearing ( I think it was Bill Ford but I could be wrong) someone at ford saying " We have learned that we can not SLAP Mustang on anything , drop a big motor in it and expect it to sell. We needed to get back to making MUSTANGs and then we can move the car forward. " I am Para phraseing the Heck out of it but that was the jist.
They needed to reastablish the Mustanf DNA so it could evolve into a Modern version of it self.
In Short I agree, smoother lines with classic Stang style cues maybe even a more agrsive stance would be great. I must say as I predicted in past threads the 2010 is really growing on me. Didn't really like at first.
as far as HO V6s, HECK YAH. 325 to 350 HP and 30+ MPG that is just awsome.
In their time the Buick Grand Nationals Ruled So if Mustang can take that notch as well as the V8 market GO FOR IT.



