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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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It's a flex plant that built Mazda's on the same line as the Mustang and all its variants.
I wouldn't think it to be that weird.

Then again, I have no knowledge on how different things would have to be to run those vehicles.
I've only seen it in action on a tour, but that's about it
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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[QUOTE=Twin Turbo;6603409]I take it you meant April 17th................but are you talking 2013 (i.e. Wednesday) or 2014?

Yes 2014, he said we should have concept later this year but production after, well after April 17th 2014.
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
I take it you meant April 17th................but are you talking 2013 (i.e. Wednesday) or 2014?

Yes 2014, he said we should have concept later this year but production after, well after April 17th 2014.
Interesting, thank you
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 04:51 AM
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Even before reading the report of the alleged delay/set back, I'd have said no sneak peeks on the 17th. In regards to the year long party leading up to the 50th anniv, we're all assuming the 50th anniv somehow ties into the release of the next model. Implied as that may be, we've recieved nothing from Ford to indicate that is the case. We've all become complacent towards and accepting of MY creep... it wasn't that long ago that new MY cars came out no earlier than the last quarter of the CY prior. That was the norm. Recently however, the creep has lead us to believe it's acceptable to release a 2012 BOSS 302 in March of 2011. That's ludicrous. Even if the next Mustang came out on the 50th anniv, that'd still be an April '14 release of a '15 MY car. Still ludicrous, regardless of how excited we are to see the next Mustang.

We all need to slow our roll and enjoy the lead up to the 50th anniv celebrations, and - especially if the alleged set back is true - trust that Ford has our best interests in mind with the new design.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by black_bullitt
... trust that Ford has our best interests in mind with the new design.
Don't fool yourself. Ford is a company and the only interest is how to make money.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by UOP Shadow

Don't fool yourself. Ford is a company and the only interest is how to make money.
They're not going to make money if they screw over their current fan base.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Well given how mustangs looked after 1970 until 2005.. that's a 34 year failure with 14 years of body styles I think look good (1965-1970 & 2005-present). I'm not holding my breath for 2015. Remember what happened last time they tried to go euro?

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shhhh
Well given how mustangs looked after 1970 until 2005.. that's a 34 year failure with 14 years of body styles I think look good (1965-1970 & 2005-present). I'm not holding my breath for 2015. Remember what happened last time they tried to go euro?
Bite your tongue!!!
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
They're not going to make money if they screw over their current fan base.
Ford and GM build cars. However, they are not in business to build cars, they are in business to make money. That is very important to keep in mind as you look at the photo of the Mustang II. 385,993 Mustangs were sold for the model year (1974). Then take a hard look at the number of 2012 Mustangs sold 82,995 (according to MT).

No business, regardless of size would like to lose 82,000 customers. No business would sacrifice 82,000 customers to move 100,000 units. The question to ponder is: Would a business out to make money trade 82,000 customers to gain 385,000 customers?

I'm just saying...
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bt4

Ford and GM build cars. However, they are not in business to build cars, they are in business to make money. That is very important to keep in mind as you look at the photo of the Mustang II. 385,993 Mustangs were sold for the model year (1974). Then take a hard look at the number of 2012 Mustangs sold 82,995 (according to MT).

No business, regardless of size would like to lose 82,000 customers. No business would sacrifice 82,000 customers to move 100,000 units. The question to ponder is: Would a business out to make money trade 82,000 customers to gain 385,000 customers?

I'm just saying...
Does anyone believe that there are 400k mustang buyers out there? Haha hell no, I don't.

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Shhhh
Well given how mustangs looked after 1970 until 2005.. that's a 34 year failure with 14 years of body styles I think look good (1965-1970 & 2005-present). I'm not holding my breath for 2015. Remember what happened last time they tried to go euro?
Amazing a product is still around if it has been a "failure" for 34 years . . .
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Amazing a product is still around if it has been a "failure" for 34 years . . .
You're right. Ford is relentless. The sales numbers did surprise me, though. Even still.. I hope 2015 looks good... I just wouldn't count on it.

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Shhhh
I just wouldn't count on it.
Why not? At the very least, let's see the first spy shot before counting the 2015 Mustang out (and, no, I'm not talking about the covered S197 "spy" shots that were captured last week).
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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I think a dark shot with the headlights on would be good enough. Or a corner of the vehicle. An interior shot, somethin!!!
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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I like your thinking. Guess we will find out tomorrow.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Agent
I like your thinking. Guess we will find out tomorrow.
My eyes are gonna be glued to any reliable auto source all day tomorrow in hopes ill find something
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
Does anyone believe that there are 400k mustang buyers out there? Haha hell no, I don't.
You missed the point. You are quite correct--the market will not support even 100,000 units of a $40K 2-door V8 Mustang. You really went out on a limb there; predicting there aren't 400,000 Mustang buyers, (in the current form), since 2012 Sales were 82,000 units (only about half the 2006 sales). The current model simply isn't generating the volume it needs to in order to survive in a tough market.

That was the problem Ford faced prior to 74. They misjudged the market with the '71 redesign. They had aimed a newer, bigger pony car (800 lbs heavier than the '70), at the buying public, it simply wasn't selling, not in numbers that made a business case for the product. No matter what opinion you may hold of the Mustang II, the econobox re-boot of the Mustang sold over 385,000 units and kept the Mustang in production. It happened to be a good move for Ford, even though it alienated a number (all in fact) of the performance oriented customers.

The point I wanted to make was: if Ford were confident they could build a two door sport compact they could market worldwide and increase the net sales by 300,000 at the expense of alienating 82,000 customers (not all of which own a Mustang with a V8 BTW), they would probably make that trade. Nothing personal, just business. They have done it before. In 1973 Ford sold 134,817 Mustangs, they traded those customers for over 385,000 new customers willing to buy a re-skinned Pinto--and they made money.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bt4

You missed the point. You are quite correct--the market will not support even 100,000 units of a $40K 2-door V8 Mustang. You really went out on a limb there; predicting there aren't 400,000 Mustang buyers, (in the current form), since 2012 Sales were 82,000 units (only about half the 2006 sales). The current model simply isn't generating the volume it needs to in order to survive in a tough market.

That was the problem Ford faced prior to 74. They misjudged the market with the '71 redesign. They had aimed a newer, bigger pony car (800 lbs heavier than the '70), at the buying public, it simply wasn't selling, not in numbers that made a business case for the product. No matter what opinion you may hold of the Mustang II, the econobox re-boot of the Mustang sold over 385,000 units and kept the Mustang in production. It happened to be a good move for Ford, even though it alienated a number (all in fact) of the performance oriented customers.

The point I wanted to make was: if Ford were confident they could build a two door sport compact they could market worldwide and increase the net sales by 300,000 at the expense of alienating 82,000 customers (not all of which own a Mustang with a V8 BTW), they would probably make that trade. Nothing personal, just business. They have done it before. In 1973 Ford sold 134,817 Mustangs, they traded those customers for over 385,000 new customers willing to buy a re-skinned Pinto--and they made money.
The Mustang II was built because of the oil crisis. You think they're going to build a Mustang II.5? Come on man

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shhhh
Well given how mustangs looked after 1970 until 2005.. that's a 34 year failure with 14 years of body styles I think look good (1965-1970 & 2005-present). I'm not holding my breath for 2015. Remember what happened last time they tried to go euro?
what a stupid statement!

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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Talking

Anyway........................it's the 17th April already here in the UK


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I WANNA 2015MY MUSTANG TEASER AND I WANT IT NOW
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