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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

I would really like to see that matchup. Stock cobra is only 390hp so the boss has it on the top end then factor in heat soak. Somebody hook that race up.
Too bad yours breaks everytime you use it. LoL
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by UnrealFord

Too bad yours breaks everytime you use it. LoL
Lol :jerk: Pretty sure I wouldn't have a problem spanking that Boss in any type of race though.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 03:57 AM
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Cobra cobra cobra.......
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Lol :jerk: Pretty sure I wouldn't have a problem spanking that Boss in any type of race though.
Why are you even arguing about that? We all know I would beat you both easily......
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by newpony
No freaking way. IRS should be standard and the car designed with it in mind. SRA should be extra for the 10% of people that take their car drag racing or for the people that like living in the past.
Just throwing this out there, but can you cite 10% as a credible number?

I honestly cannot remember anybody giving a definitive answer to the actual number of people who drag race their Mustangs.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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At the end of the day, yes, Ford has proved they can make an SRA handle as good, if not better than its IRS equipped rivals......but then, just as an example, a crank handle will wind a window up just as well as an electric motor.....
Well I'm gonna laugh my butt off when all these internet racers learn the hard way that IRS isn't the cure all over SRA for mediocre driving skills.

How many are going to wind up in the ditch because they simply don't know how to handle their car in a hard curve, but think IRS is their "magic bullet"??

My money is on 90+% of drivers that haven't learned how to take the curve with SRA are going to wreck with their new IRS.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Ahem... Apparently you missed that class on the Constitution. President's don't write legislation. The Congress does. And at least somebody finally tried to hold teachers accountable.



Keep your attempted distortions and support of failed teacher unions in the politics section please.
I am sorry if I gave inacurate info on the actual outcome of who actually was responsible for the outcome of that decision on students being left behind. It was said not so much as a jab politically but to make the point of application of what people call education now days! It can only get worse! Please forgive my loose blaming of the bush adm. for the reason for this problem. I was using it as a loose reference of a time frame for when this went through. But it's all good. Both sides of the political fence has their viewpoint.... somewhere in between lies the truth!

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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Ill take my sra 13 gt over my 03 irs cobra any day. And by the way my 13 gt a6 is quicker and faster in the quarter and rides better. Plus I dont worry about breaking a half shaft.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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You can't really compare an old antiquated platform with a thrown in IRS compared to a purpose built platform with SRA....
much in the same way we'll never see a comparison side by side of a Ford developed SRA VS IRS in the current platform.

So until we see how the new car performs, all is just speculation, best guesses and 'i thinks'
I'll take the IRS any day of the week, as long as its built to be robust.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Well I'm gonna laugh my butt off when all these internet racers learn the hard way that IRS isn't the cure all over SRA for mediocre driving skills.

How many are going to wind up in the ditch because they simply don't know how to handle their car in a hard curve, but think IRS is their "magic bullet"??

My money is on 90+% of drivers that haven't learned how to take the curve with SRA are going to wreck with their new IRS.

Anyone that thinks IRS will prevent them ending up in a ditch should probably stick to the internet

Rather like those that think ABS means they can brake later.......in some circumstances that may be true, but driving like an idiot is going to end in trouble now matter what the suspension setup or electronic gizmos the car may offer
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Well I'm gonna laugh my butt off when all these internet racers learn the hard way that IRS isn't the cure all over SRA for mediocre driving skills.

How many are going to wind up in the ditch because they simply don't know how to handle their car in a hard curve, but think IRS is their "magic bullet"??

My money is on 90+% of drivers that haven't learned how to take the curve with SRA are going to wreck with their new IRS.
Certainly true. No sooner than some genius invents a better idiot-proof gadget, someone comes up with a better idiot.

While a good (as opposed to bad or mediocre) IRS can broaden a suspension's capabilities and bandwidth to handle well over a greater variety of road surfaces, they ain't magic and said idiot can still overcook into a corner and end up testing the off-roading capabilities of their car.

That all said, I am confident the NextStang's IRS will in fact broaden and deepen the the Mustang's ride AND handling capabilities, and also improve its safety aspect too, though never to the point of being idiot-proof.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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Hey, if they can make a car that virtually parks itself, sometime soon they could make it idiot proof!
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by red pony
Hey, if they can make a car that virtually parks itself, sometime soon they could make it idiot proof!
You mean you haven't seen those google self driving cars.

To stay on topic they have IRS. Haha
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
So last year the Boss 302 and 302LS came out. Dominated some of the factory road course scenes. People traded in their Porsches and BMWs to get one of these "SRA" equipped "factory race ready" cars. Yes Ford did that with a SRA. But some of you whine that you need an IRS.
So the big question is...................
Wait for it...................

WHY DOES THE NEW MUSTANG NEED AN IRS?
To make it even better, duh.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by red pony
Hey, if they can make a car that virtually parks itself, sometime soon they could make it idiot proof!
Naw, idiots are very tenacious and incredibly adept at finding ways to render supposedly idiot proof objects into idiot enablers. Its their gift.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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I'll take IRS over the SRA, thank you. My GT is a little scary on corners over imperfect pavement.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by justindo
I'll take IRS over the SRA, thank you. My GT is a little scary on corners over imperfect pavement.
You're really scared to going around corners?
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by justindo
I'll take IRS over the SRA, thank you. My GT is a little scary on corners over imperfect pavement.


LEARN TO DRIVE!
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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I would be one who would like to have a choice between IRS an SRA. I would choose the SRA. I like rearends that are easy to maintain and lightweight. Unsprung weight is important for going fast. If a SRA is good enough to be used in a truck , it is good enough for me.
I am sure there are many who would choose the IRS. If Ford offered a choice for rearends, they would offer something the competition does not. However, there are not many suppliers of SRA rearends and as a result the price may go up for the cost of producing SRA. Hopefully, Ford has a way they can afford to offer the buyer a choice of rearends.

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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Ford needs to invest money into one solution and do it well. Offering the public a choice will be confusing and costly.

Think about this, if they develop one rear suspension and axle type instead of two, the vast majority of owners who don't ever set foot on a drag strip or road course will notice it. The aftermarket will offer up solutions to beef up whatever they offer from the factory.
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