Sneak peek for Christmas?
10/22/12, 10:07 PM
#21
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I think he means there's more sheep buying iPhones than Mustangs.
or...
When a new Mustang comes out with a different coat of paint and slightly different tread pattern...apple people would wait weeks to get in line for one...Mustang owners would just criticize it for not having an IRS...
or...
When a new Mustang comes out with a different coat of paint and slightly different tread pattern...apple people would wait weeks to get in line for one...Mustang owners would just criticize it for not having an IRS...
10/22/12, 10:13 PM
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10/23/12, 09:13 AM
#24
I Have No Life
Speaking of Apple and on the topic of the supplier issues:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/10...-and-security/
This article COMPLETELY echo's what you are talking about here.
I can imagine (and appreciate through my line of work) the level of awareness and connectivey on this planet now, but this is a 2 sided coin.
With that also comes an increasing # of inherant risks and possible leaks.
The security protocol that has to be adhered to is absolutely MIND boggling, and you are only as strong as your weakest link.
In this day in age, imagine how many 1st, 2nd AND 3rd parties that are involved in something as complicated and complex as a modern vehicle.
Now imagine how far out they have to be working on something before it gets shown to the world.
To be able to keep it a secret is likened to finding a Sasquatch riding a Unicorn!
It's unfortunate as well that in this day in ages, where it is SO easy to get info out, in fractions of a second for the world to see....that we are so connected that we are disconnected. (if that makes sense, I'll explain)
Once the info is out, it really can't be taken back.
Sure you can find the person who did it, but it's already circulating like a virus. The damage is done. No one thinks about the actions/reprecussions.
Ranging from people losing their jobs, prosecution, or info in the hands of the competition. Knowledge is power, and some people just don't give a rat-fart about keeping it secret. Want-to-Know VS Need-to-Know.
I don't know, I like the reaction of opening a present and surprising someone....seems more fulfilling than having them know exactly what they are going to get.
It really does amaze me in these times that a company CAN keep a secret.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/10...-and-security/
This article COMPLETELY echo's what you are talking about here.
I can imagine (and appreciate through my line of work) the level of awareness and connectivey on this planet now, but this is a 2 sided coin.
With that also comes an increasing # of inherant risks and possible leaks.
The security protocol that has to be adhered to is absolutely MIND boggling, and you are only as strong as your weakest link.
In this day in age, imagine how many 1st, 2nd AND 3rd parties that are involved in something as complicated and complex as a modern vehicle.
Now imagine how far out they have to be working on something before it gets shown to the world.
To be able to keep it a secret is likened to finding a Sasquatch riding a Unicorn!
It's unfortunate as well that in this day in ages, where it is SO easy to get info out, in fractions of a second for the world to see....that we are so connected that we are disconnected. (if that makes sense, I'll explain)
Once the info is out, it really can't be taken back.
Sure you can find the person who did it, but it's already circulating like a virus. The damage is done. No one thinks about the actions/reprecussions.
Ranging from people losing their jobs, prosecution, or info in the hands of the competition. Knowledge is power, and some people just don't give a rat-fart about keeping it secret. Want-to-Know VS Need-to-Know.
I don't know, I like the reaction of opening a present and surprising someone....seems more fulfilling than having them know exactly what they are going to get.
It really does amaze me in these times that a company CAN keep a secret.
10/23/12, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Speaking of Apple and on the topic of the supplier issues:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/10...-and-security/
This article COMPLETELY echo's what you are talking about here.
I can imagine (and appreciate through my line of work) the level of awareness and connectivey on this planet now, but this is a 2 sided coin.
With that also comes an increasing # of inherant risks and possible leaks.
The security protocol that has to be adhered to is absolutely MIND boggling, and you are only as strong as your weakest link.
In this day in age, imagine how many 1st, 2nd AND 3rd parties that are involved in something as complicated and complex as a modern vehicle.
Now imagine how far out they have to be working on something before it gets shown to the world.
To be able to keep it a secret is likened to finding a Sasquatch riding a Unicorn!
It's unfortunate as well that in this day in ages, where it is SO easy to get info out, in fractions of a second for the world to see....that we are so connected that we are disconnected. (if that makes sense, I'll explain)
Once the info is out, it really can't be taken back.
Sure you can find the person who did it, but it's already circulating like a virus. The damage is done. No one thinks about the actions/reprecussions.
Ranging from people losing their jobs, prosecution, or info in the hands of the competition. Knowledge is power, and some people just don't give a rat-fart about keeping it secret. Want-to-Know VS Need-to-Know.
I don't know, I like the reaction of opening a present and surprising someone....seems more fulfilling than having them know exactly what they are going to get.
It really does amaze me in these times that a company CAN keep a secret.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/10...-and-security/
This article COMPLETELY echo's what you are talking about here.
I can imagine (and appreciate through my line of work) the level of awareness and connectivey on this planet now, but this is a 2 sided coin.
With that also comes an increasing # of inherant risks and possible leaks.
The security protocol that has to be adhered to is absolutely MIND boggling, and you are only as strong as your weakest link.
In this day in age, imagine how many 1st, 2nd AND 3rd parties that are involved in something as complicated and complex as a modern vehicle.
Now imagine how far out they have to be working on something before it gets shown to the world.
To be able to keep it a secret is likened to finding a Sasquatch riding a Unicorn!
It's unfortunate as well that in this day in ages, where it is SO easy to get info out, in fractions of a second for the world to see....that we are so connected that we are disconnected. (if that makes sense, I'll explain)
Once the info is out, it really can't be taken back.
Sure you can find the person who did it, but it's already circulating like a virus. The damage is done. No one thinks about the actions/reprecussions.
Ranging from people losing their jobs, prosecution, or info in the hands of the competition. Knowledge is power, and some people just don't give a rat-fart about keeping it secret. Want-to-Know VS Need-to-Know.
I don't know, I like the reaction of opening a present and surprising someone....seems more fulfilling than having them know exactly what they are going to get.
It really does amaze me in these times that a company CAN keep a secret.
We're getting off topic though, but I think we can agree that it's amazing stuff isn't leaked out more.
10/23/12, 09:31 AM
#26
The real key in all this, is, from what limited info we know, we "expect" the car to be shown in early 2014. We're still nearly 18 months from production. Unlike the electronics industry, the components necessary to build a vehicle are far more vast and sourced from all corners of the world. Right now, the car is in the hands of a limited number within the company, and a few choice suppliers that have lengthy lead times for parts (dies for stamping come to mind). As product deadlines and validations near, more and more suppliers will start dabbling in and getting access to information.
Bottom line, keep your pants on, but from spring 2013 and beyond, you might get lucky.
Bottom line, keep your pants on, but from spring 2013 and beyond, you might get lucky.
10/23/12, 12:57 PM
#27
Needs to be more Astony
its a lot easier for someone to walk off and take a picture of a phone than it is a whole car. and they build the iphone in China so any American item being secret over there is not going to happen.
10/24/12, 10:58 AM
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Yah, I'm expecting a 2-door fusion. I mean this in the sense that the styling is probably already present. Plus, it will be dolled up to be a mustang, this is not a negative 
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10/24/12, 03:04 PM
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I'm still anxious to see what Max has in store for Lincoln. I think they'll be more anxious to show that over the new Mustang, since it'll translate to more models and over a longer period of time.
Looking at their last two concepts and their production counterparts (Vertrek/Escape and Evos/Fusion), there wasn't much time between concept unveil and production reveal. If Mustang is slated for NY2014, Detroit or Chicago 2014 could be a place to see a potential successor with cues from the production car.
Looking at their last two concepts and their production counterparts (Vertrek/Escape and Evos/Fusion), there wasn't much time between concept unveil and production reveal. If Mustang is slated for NY2014, Detroit or Chicago 2014 could be a place to see a potential successor with cues from the production car.
I'm really excited for the Lincoln RWD because I'm pretty sure we will see a new special high-tech world beater OEM class V8 that finally isn't in a Mustang - or we will get a crate 5.8 Trinity.
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