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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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Rev Matching on Manuals?

I was at the dentist and picked up a Motor Trend or Road and Track (can't remember which now, but it was the Feb issue) and was reading about the Mustang. They were talking about the toggle switches at the base of the center stack, specifically the drive select one. They said it will control a host things among them, rev matching on the manual transmission.

I hadn't heard anyone mention this prior to reading this article. Does anyone have any information on this feature? Is it real or just conjecture?
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AWmustang
I was at the dentist and picked up a Motor Trend or Road and Track (can't remember which now, but it was the Feb issue) and was reading about the Mustang. They were talking about the toggle switches at the base of the center stack, specifically the drive select one. They said it will control a host things among them, rev matching on the manual transmission. I hadn't heard anyone mention this prior to reading this article. Does anyone have any information on this feature? Is it real or just conjecture?
I forget where i saw/read it at but yea the manual is supposed to rev match on downshifts in sport mode or something much like the 370Z Synchrorev stuff.

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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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I find that a little disappointing.
Glad it can be turned off, part of driving a manual is NOT being helped by a computer.
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 11:36 AM
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May still be conjecture at this point, I don't believe ford has shared at any point info about this feature. The only official references to rev match have been for the auto.
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
I find that a little disappointing.
Glad it can be turned off, part of driving a manual is NOT being helped by a computer.
I think options like that are great. If you like it, leave it on. If you don't like it, turn it off. Everyone wins.
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
I find that a little disappointing.
Glad it can be turned off, part of driving a manual is NOT being helped by a computer.
100% agree.

Same goes for paddle shifters.They never have a 'manual' feel unless it's a DCT
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:46 AM
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I think options like that are great. If you like it, leave it on. If you don't like it, turn it off. Everyone wins.
I would hope its default is off, if offered in the manual.

Or at least a setting that doesn't have to be constantly 'turned off' every start.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:23 AM
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I would hope its default is off, if offered in the manual.

Or at least a setting that doesn't have to be constantly 'turned off' every start.
I agree, I'm not sure how this is going to work well when driving aggressively. The computer isn't going to read my mind and won't know what gear I'm shifting into until it's into the gate. If I go from 4th to 2nd, is it going to hold the clutch a split second after I let off until it matches revs for the speed I'm going? I'd much rather do it myself.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
I agree, I'm not sure how this is going to work well when driving aggressively. The computer isn't going to read my mind and won't know what gear I'm shifting into until it's into the gate. If I go from 4th to 2nd, is it going to hold the clutch a split second after I let off until it matches revs for the speed I'm going? I'd much rather do it myself.
I don't think it's supposed to work on aggressive driving. Probably supposed to make daily commutes a little easier. Constant clutching just sucks and it will probably save clutch life for the daily drivers.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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What happens is as you move the shifter to the cusp of the gate the computer calculates the exact rpm needed and modulates the engine to that rpm so by the time you have completed the motion putting it into the gate the engine is adjusted. I think there are videos out there showing drivers playing with it and how fast it reacts. Personally I haven't seen any review where it was commented that the system can't keep up. Considering dct systems with rev match can shift in hundredths of a second I would think the computer will be more than capable of keeping up with a human. If it isn't then the feature is mostly pointless from a performance standpoint. There are some really good articles as well describing how it works in a 370z.

Nissan 370z has had is for years and BMW is including on its new m3 and m4. Not sure about Nissan but bmws system is defeatable. I agree with the above that if ford includes this feature it should be part of car setup so can be set at start to be on or off by each individual driver. Rather than have to be adjusted every time the car is turned on.

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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I think it's mostly intended to eliminate heal and toe shifting. In other words you'll be down shifting while braking and it will rev match for you because your feet are on the brake and clutch.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
I find that a little disappointing.
Glad it can be turned off, part of driving a manual is NOT being helped by a computer.
exactamundo!

Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I don't think it's supposed to work on aggressive driving. Probably supposed to make daily commutes a little easier. Constant clutching just sucks and it will probably save clutch life for the daily drivers.
I don't believe it'll make it where you don't have to use the clutch, simply that you wont have to blip the throttle to match the revs on a downshift.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 09:42 AM
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Whether anyone likes the idea or not, or thinks its horrible or not.


The key is choice.


If it's not a forced option, no one should give a **** about it if they don't use it.
If they do like it, it's a win.


And honestly, with the car like a Mustang, do you think it would be offered as anything BUT an optional tool? Probably not.
It may not even have it, so this is all a moot point.
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