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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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I'm still sticking with this mule being half S197 and half S550
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:40 AM
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Affix power folding mirrors . 92% finished
The ones that will be sold in Europe will need them for sure, so suitable parts should be obtainable.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
"The company goes so far as to pose this question to fans of the pony car: "Should we borrow a few of these style elements for the next iteration of the Mustang?""

This quote, from a vid put out by Ford, from an article in Autoblog regarding the original Mustang. No, not the 1965 Mustang, the orginal 1962 mid-engine V-4 showcar Mustang. Not quite sure what to make of the quip: is it just a throw away musing or rather, is Ford softening the terrain for a bit more radically restyled Mustang than many first presume or may be (initially) comfortable with? Some eye-witness reports of the new Mustang have commented on a more Continental look that's a bit more Aston Martin than Musclecar.

Anyway, thought I'd pitch this bit of meat into the lion's cage to spark off the day's discussions.
I hope they aren't softening the Mustang based on the fears of current Mustang owners. Long hood, short deck, 2+2 that can be configured as efficient commuter or track day terror is all they need to adhere to. Then let the Mustang designers and engineers run with it. I loved where the Evos was going and if it were not for the Fusion hitting the market first, Mustang faithfully would be loving that front end.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedCostsMoney
Like I said. take it with a gain of salt. No matter what they do I hope they keep it classy. If they go all Fusion with is I will not like it.
All fusion, me neither. But share done if those cues with a lower, wider, deeper and more aggressive attitude and you have the perfect Mustang for this generation.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Topnotch
From the looks of it these are
255/40R-19 Pirelli PZero max performance, 19 x 9-in.

Hoping they have staggered option.
(need to fill a wee bit more)
(Boss 302: 285/35R-19 Pirelli PZero max, 19 x 9.5-in.)


Maybe on this mule, but we've seen a couple others with Hankook Ventus V12s...
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Topnotch
From the looks of it these are
255/40R-19 Pirelli PZero max performance, 19 x 9-in.

Hoping they have staggered option.
(need to fill a wee bit more)
(Boss 302: 285/35R-19 Pirelli PZero max, 19 x 9.5-in.)



I believe you are correct. 255/40/ZR19.


The Mustang has ALWAYS been under-tire'd. I'm sick of that. Put some aggressive tread on the car, damnit!!

Back in the early 2000's, my dad had a BMW 540i Sport Package, with 280hp and that thing had 255 wide tires on it. His 550i with 360hp had 285's out back. Of course, torque is what really matters with traction, not hp but the Coyote produces more than enough torque to warrant atleast 285- bare minimum.

The GT500 needs 335's in back with 630ftlb of torque.



My supercharged 2007 GT makes 420ft lbs and 480whp, and I can blow the 315 DR's in back right off the rims with ease, on accident. Partly due to crappy suspension, but sticky MT's even have trouble with that level of power.

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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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I agree but with so much low end torque only going to two wheels on the back on a front heavy car like ours, traction is always going to be an issue on Mustang no matter what size tire is on the back. The IRS may help a little bit if Fords does it right but at the end of the day it is just too much power to control for a stock suspension set up. This is where mid-engine or rear-engine setups have an advantage here. I also believe this is one of the main reasons a lot of super cars now are going with AWD with the insane power cars put down now days. Torque is split between among all four wheels instead of just two.

Of course there is always the aftermarket depended on how much comfort you are willing to sacrifice for the name of traction.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Good Bones, Stunning Look

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015...ning-look.html
Attached Thumbnails Full camo prototype spotted-2015_mn.jpg  
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Lots of things to make us feel all warm and fuzzy whilst we wait. And wait. And wait
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Can't just someone get invlove in a car accident with that prototype Mustang so it's true identity can be revealed. Just a minor fender bender could do the job. ! Anything people , we need to see more.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Like that render.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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It will have a nice full fastback for sure. Remember when all we wanted was "hips" and the 2010's in camo made every effort to hide them. I think this is the same thing with that propped up bit over the rear of the greenhouse. It's hiding that wonderful fastback we have all been asking for! Ford knows, if you ask any Mustang fan what design element they would like to see in the car, almost all of us would say a true fastback.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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looks like a camaro?
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanStang
looks like a camaro?
What does?
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanStang
looks like a camaro?
More akin the GR1 concept Ford did awhile back.

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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MustangDizzle
The GT500 needs 335's in back with 630ftlb of torque.

My supercharged 2007 GT makes 420ft lbs and 480whp, and I can blow the 315 DR's in back
Going wider doesn't necessarily transfer into more straight line grip, R&T had a good article on the subject which I haven't been able to find other than this smallish photo grab but it worth the read if you can find it as the article dispels some very common myths about installing the widest tire possible and expecting huge increase in grip. essentially it boils down to "weight x air pressure" and the way the tire biases the contact patch. I also suspect in a dynamic state with multiple forces (say going around an off camber turn) acting on the tire the effect is more pronounced with a live axle suspension as the suspension doesn't allow any sort of useful independent camber gain.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:37 PM
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If you look at the first pic with the camo and follow the body line at the top of the door it does seem to curve down pretty steeply. Unlike the camo cover and giving a fastback appearance.

Who knows, its all driving me nuts. I almost want to sell my 2012 in preparation for this.......hmmm
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 05:51 AM
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They probably stuck some NASCAR Fusion headlight stickers on the front to throw us off. no way those are the actual lights.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MeanStang

looks like a camaro?
Yeeeesssss
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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I am more worried about the light treatment in the front. It has been confirmed they are going with a new smaller light bezel construction. It is cheaper and more efficient. Not having round head lamps really takes away from the classic look IMHO.
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